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"Fuming, Defiant" Mexican Politicians Meet With US Officials Over "Hostile" Immigration Policies
zerohedge.com ^ | Feb 23, 2017

Posted on 02/23/2017 4:42:12 AM PST by Helicondelta

Top US officials arrived in Mexico Wednesday to find a "defiant, fuming" Mexican government refusing to accept President Donald Trump’s tougher immigration and deportation policies.

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson landed in Mexico City on Wednesday afternoon. He was due to be joined by Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly later for talks the White House said would "walk through" the implementation of Trump's immigration orders. Kelly signed the guidelines issued by his department on Monday. Mexico's lead negotiator with the Trump administration, Foreign Minister Luis Videgaray, said there was no way Mexico would accept the new rules, which among other things seek to deport non-Mexicans to Mexico.

"We also have control of our borders and we will exercise it fully," he said, adding that Mexico was prepared to go the United Nations to defend the freedoms and rights of Mexicans under international law.

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


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To: Helicondelta

We have been propping this failed narco state up for a lifetime. They have effectively exported their entire mestizo underclass to us.

Name one time you have seen an illegal Mexican that looks like the Castilian President of Mexico? Answer is never.


41 posted on 02/23/2017 6:58:53 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Liz

Mexican politicos aren’t livid,they are terrified. The government’s collapse would be quick and brutal.


42 posted on 02/23/2017 7:06:39 AM PST by SanchoP
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To: SanchoP
The Mexican govt's collapse would be quick and brutal...

.........man, that made my day........

43 posted on 02/23/2017 7:13:55 AM PST by Liz (Coulters L a: the MSM's delay in reporting a perp means the less likely its a white Christian)
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To: Helicondelta

Mexico has more draconian immigration laws than we do.
They also have no say in our enforcement of our laws.


44 posted on 02/23/2017 7:16:18 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: All

Time for Trump to “out” Mexico about THEIR barbaric immigration policies....EDUCATE THE WORLD and let them know how Mexico treats immigrants.


45 posted on 02/23/2017 7:18:27 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: All
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS TO HUMANITARIAN FOREIGN AID TO THESE CENTRAL AMERICAN SATRAPS?
A former Guatemala President used US banks to launder foreign aid millions
thieving Guatemalan was elected to "redistribute" the dirt-poor nation's wealth. Read on.

Alfonso Portillo---ex-president of Central America's Guatemala--- faced charges in New York that he used US banks to launder millions looted from his impoverished nation. Alfonso Portillo took office in 2000 pledging to (ahem) redistribute Guatemala’s wealth.

Portillo, 61, allegedly ran scams to drain the impoverished country's coffers. The feds say Portillo embezzled about $2.5M provided by the Taiwanese embassy.... $1.5 million was earmarked for “Libraries for Peace”....books for school kids.

Portillo colluded w/ corrupt C/A insiders---he personally endorsed three $500,000 checks issued against an account at the Intl Bank of China in Manhattan, then deposited the cash in the Miami bank account of a Guatemalan bank controlled by a close associate and political supporter.

The embezzled foreign aid money was funneled to bank accounts in Paris in the names of Portillo’s ex-wife and daughter.

<><> Portillo swindled nearly $4M defense funds ...

<><> plundered the national bank run by his alleged co-conspirator...

<><> through overdrafts financed by public reserves the pilfered foreign aid money paid for expensive watches and cars, for Portillo and his associates. (NY POST excerpt 5/28/13)

SOURCE http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/
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46 posted on 02/23/2017 7:18:38 AM PST by Liz (Coulters L a: the MSM's delay in reporting a perp means the less likely its a white Christian)
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To: al_c

We should pass the identical law.


47 posted on 02/23/2017 7:23:26 AM PST by jch10 (President Trump, President Trump, President Trump! I just love saying that!)
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To: jch10
That would be good. Or we could begin enforcing the laws we already have.
48 posted on 02/23/2017 7:27:53 AM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Can you list Mexico’s trade leverage? Avocados?

Trump is rewarding repatriation of manufacturing and promising border taxes. Advantage: USA

We give:
foreign aid
illegals send money home.
corrupt LEO and judges have allowed drug and human trafficking to continue. Mexican elites profit.
US tourism is easy, visa-free and cheap, to date.

We buy Mexican produce. Give CA farmers water and they can grow it here. Raise wages and Americans can work what fields aren’t mechanized.

I love year-round produce, but I’ll pay more if it furthers border security and I’m an admitted cheapskate.


49 posted on 02/23/2017 7:35:24 AM PST by reformedliberal
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THE LATINO SHAKEDOWN As you read this, remember that Guatemalan Pres Otto Perez is under investigation for misuse of foreign aid.

Otto Perez

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Guatemalan President Otto Perez warns the USA: "you will be inundated w/ more contagious illegals if billions of US tax dollars are not handed over."

GUATEMALA CITY (Reuters) - The United States should provide billions of dollars to help Central American nations curb the flow of illegal migrants, Guatemalan President Otto Perez said, and his government warns the problem will get worse if Washington fails to help.

Fleeing violence, trying to reach relatives already in the United States or seeking jobs, record numbers of child migrants from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador have been stopped at the southern U.S. border this year, causing widespread alarm. Last month, the three countries pitched Washington an ambitious development plan to confront the issue.

They want to pump about $10 billion into the region to create jobs and lift living standards, with the bulk of funding coming from the United States, Perez told Reuters. He hopes the plan could come up with about $2 billion a year from 2015 to 2019, a sum he equated to roughly 10 percent of annual U.S. spending on border security and immigration enforcement.

"Now we understand it's not simply a question of the United States saying: 'Right, here's $2 billion a year for five years' for example - the governments of the three countries have to play their part too," the conservative Perez, who took power in early 2012, said in an interview late on Monday.

The US aid package would boost infrastructure and provide more jobs in all three countries, especially in areas that send large numbers of migrants to the United States, he added.

The three Central American governments are urging the United States to shoulder the lion's share of the costs, arguing that U.S. demand for illegal narcotics has fueled violence among drug gangs across much of the impoverished region.

"The United States has to support this, it has no other option," Guatemala's foreign minister, Carlos Morales, told Reuters. "If they don't support it, the crisis will kick off again, you can count on it."

Perez said he hoped the United States would put up about 60 percent of funding. "But we'll have to discuss it calmly and see what each individual country can do, and what can be achieved by common consent."

During meetings in New York in September, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry told Central American officials he hoped Congress could approve about $300 million in funding, Morales said, noting the sum was "nothing" given the scale of the problem.

Central American leaders are due to meet Vice President Joe Biden on Nov. 12 in Washington to sound out U.S. support for their plan, Morales added.--SNIP--

(OCT 2014---Reporting by Dave Graham; Editing by Kieran Murray) http://news.yahoo.com/u-stump-billions-curb-central-america-migration-perez-171130651.html

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REFERENCE Ex-Guatemalan president and VP charged in corruption scheme
Published June 16, 2016 / · Associated Press

FILE PIC - In this April 20, 2016, file photo, Guatemala's former Vice-President Roxana Baldetti, wearing a yellow scarf, and former President Otto Perez Molina, back center, wait for the start of a court hearing in Guatemala City. Perez and Baldetti have been formally charged on Thursday, June 16, 2016, in a sprawling corruption scheme that emptied government coffers and laundered money to be spent on Miami shopping sprees, real estate and luxury vehicles. (AP Photo/Moises Castillo, File)

The case accuses 70 people, including former President Otto Perez Molina and his Vice President Roxana Baldetti. Prosecutor Julio Barrios Prado said Thursday that the scheme involved illegal financing, embezzlement and money laundering.

Barrios told Perez Molina that the money was used to buy millions of dollars worth of goods and services. Baldetti allegedly received $38 million in kickbacks for at least 70 public works contracts.

Perez Molina and Baldetti are already jailed pending trial for another corrupt scheme in which companies paid bribes to avoid customs duties. That case led to their resignations.

SOURCE http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/16/ex-guatemalan-president-and-vp-charged-in-corruption-scheme.html

50 posted on 02/23/2017 7:37:02 AM PST by Liz (Coulters L a: the MSM's delay in reporting a perp means the less likely its a white Christian)
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To: reformedliberal
Can you list Mexico’s trade leverage? Avocados?

Avocados, vehicles, electronic goods, machinery, oil, medical and technical equipment, furniture, other agricultural products, gems and precious minerals, etc., etc.

Trump is rewarding repatriation of manufacturing and promising border taxes. Advantage: USA

The U.S. exports about $230 billion worth of goods to Mexico, which would have the same border taxes placed on them.

Repatriating manufacturing would cost U.S. companies billions. It'll be cheaper for them to keep manufacturing in Mexico and pass the border tax along to consumers.

51 posted on 02/23/2017 8:01:01 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Avocados, vehicles, electronic goods, machinery, oil, medical and technical equipment, furniture, other agricultural products, gems and precious minerals, etc., etc.
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We can source all that here or elsewhere and provide US jobs.
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Seems to me we can either find other markets, deal fairly with all trade partners and grow our own economy to absorb some of the exports.

It’s about jobs, not just tax revenues. Working people buy stuff, pay taxes, the vendors they buy from pay taxes, etc.

The pie can expand. Less taken in some taxes, as promised, means more domestic economic activity.

You propose leaving jobs and manufacturing in Mexico, leaving Americans unable to purchase to so-called efficiently-produced goods while adding to the America citizens’ tax burden, in order to ‘save’ American manufacturers the cost of repatriation, which is to be lessened due to lowered corporate taxes.

Good luck selling that.


52 posted on 02/23/2017 8:41:36 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Helicondelta; LucyT; azishot; Whenifhow; Liz; All

Defiant? My a$$!!!

Dear President Trump:

Here’s a plan to bring the invaders to their knees:

- Very happy about president Nieto proving that he’s nothing but president ‘NIET’. The Mexican ‘just say niet’ to our president. This will give you a lot of power to cut the billions of ‘foreign aid’ to the richly resourced Mexico and direct it to building the wall.

- E-VERIFY IS YOUR FRIEND, in more ways than one. It’s already available for businesses all over the country. It should be used to pay for building the wall and punishing employers for hiring illegals. A double whammy, if there is one.

- Through our banking systems, Western Union and the like, any money sent through them to Mexico, South America or any other country that you restricted emigration from, there should be a form to fill out by the sender, SS# or federal identification #, plus full coordinates and a copy of his/her latest tax returns.

- Our financial organizations HAVE ACCESS TO E-VERIFY. Our laws should be applied. The clerk should check the SS#/FI# on the computer.

a) SS# doesn’t check out: arrest the claimant for fraud and confiscate the cash. Deport immediately for committing a crime.

b) SS# checks out: check on the computer for money transfer history. This is to prevent ‘money mules’ from operating for fees on behalf of illegals.

c) anything else: 40% tax withholding that can be settled with the IRS when filing the yearly income tax. Legals will get their money back as tax returns.

d) check for any frequent transfers to a legit third party that may act as an ‘electronic’ money mule, bypassing the above procedure (law). That party should explain fully where’s the money coming from or heading to or face closure and racketeering charges.

I’m sure AG Sessions will be happy to oblige.

Please knock them out!

A deplorable.

Info supporting the above:

With little arithmetics, 40% of $70 billion = $28 billion in one year, that’s enough to build a double wall! If we collect only 50%, $14 billion will build the wall. What a funny number that $70 billion! It happens to equal EXACTLY our annual trade deficit with Mexico! Funny, but I’m not laughing.

“Remittances to Latin America and the Caribbean (LAC), which exceeded US$70 billion dollars in 2015, are playing a key role in the region’s economic development,” according to the institute’s 2016 “Remittances scorecard.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/mark-browne/survey-shows-most-billions-mexico-bound-cash-remittances-each-year-are-sent


53 posted on 02/23/2017 9:17:48 AM PST by melancholy
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To: Liz

face::palm

I wound up posting my “private” reply to you here instead. Apologies. I should know better than to post before my morning coffee.


54 posted on 02/23/2017 12:14:51 PM PST by Bigg Red (The LORD of hosts is with us; our stronghold is the God of Jacob. Ps 46:12)
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To: Liz

Aack! See my #54.

Okay, yes, I have seen that one around here. (I’m not really very new to FR.)


55 posted on 02/23/2017 12:16:43 PM PST by Bigg Red (The LORD of hosts is with us; our stronghold is the God of Jacob. Ps 46:12)
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To: Liz

“Then came Trump.”

Isn’t this just DELICIOUS!!!


56 posted on 02/23/2017 6:05:13 PM PST by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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