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WAY too many - either the gov is asleep, or trying to harm POTUS or they thought none of them a problem. Why even have restrictions then? /sarc
1 posted on 02/20/2017 10:59:39 AM PST by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

Or, more likely, the FAA issued a TFR at the last second and these guys weren’t aware of it...


2 posted on 02/20/2017 11:03:11 AM PST by dinodino
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To: PghBaldy

Keep it up and they will have the even more unique experience of a high speed spiral quickly followed by a firey death.


3 posted on 02/20/2017 11:03:35 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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It’s Florida. People fly there. Piece of Americana.

Trump need not worry about the retired USN, USAF, Army, USMC pilots flying their bugsmashers in the civilian planes.

Threat seems to be taxpayer funded aircraft.

Media telling us who to fear. 15 years of this crap. We aren’t falling for it.


4 posted on 02/20/2017 11:05:46 AM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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No excuse to violate a TFR - wonder how many were Bahama-bound and not paying attention.

Every electronic chart and flight planning app and most aviation GPS will alert a pilot to active TFRs...

6 posted on 02/20/2017 11:06:43 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: PghBaldy

With some personal knowledge about this, might help shed at least some light:

It really depends on the violation. I inadvertently found myself inside a VP TFR (for Biden) on the Cape a few years ago. I knew beforehand that a TFR was in the vicinity of where I was flying, but it was a confusing set of about 5 concentric circles, with confusing operational times, and thinking I was outside of them location/time wise... all of a sudden found a black SUV headed to me after landing. Biden was not even nearby - at the last moment, decided to travel by car rather than chopper. These TFRs pop up sometimes with minutes notice.

After many months of a slow process, finally met with the FAA investigators, where they were essentially trying to determine intent. When it was clear that, while I fully admitted being in the TFR, that I had no intent to violate it, with rationale how I’d avoid it in the future, the matter was effectively over.


7 posted on 02/20/2017 11:08:00 AM PST by C210N
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SOMEONE AT THE FAA NEEDS TO TAKE A DIRT NAP. They are INTENTIONALLY refraining from notifying pilots of restricted airspace, in an effort to HARASS TRUMP and open the door to placing him at risk. This is intentional.


9 posted on 02/20/2017 11:12:57 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (im)
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OK....

How many were Ultralights or LSA's ( especially without electrical, think a restore Cub w/ no Starter or Generator ) out for a 100 hamburg or just burning holes in the skies and unfortunately did a less than stellar Pre-Flight Planning, check the NOTAM's people!!!

10 posted on 02/20/2017 11:16:20 AM PST by taildragger (Do you hear the people singing? The Song of Angry Men!....)
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WAY too many - either the gov is asleep

Not sure what the Gov has to do with it. I know the FAA sent out the temporary flight restrictions because even I got one last week... simply because I have a registered drone.

I do know that the guy who is somehow in charge of something having to do with flight paths around PBI hates Trump... he used to be on the Palm Beach city council when Trump sued the city to allow Mar a Lago to have blacks and Jews as members. Trump has had a lawsuit against the city because this guy was routing flights over Mar A Lago to harass Trump. Trump dropped the lawsuit after he became president:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-trump-dropping-pbia-lawsuit-20161114-story.html

11 posted on 02/20/2017 11:16:23 AM PST by Cementjungle
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Or maybe he should stay in DC for a while. It’s hard to get those kicked in and out


12 posted on 02/20/2017 11:17:28 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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"...with at least two of those having the unique experience of being buzzed by military jets,"

I was working on a contract in the DC area shortly after 9/11 and had the opportunity to witness a Cessna being "buzzed" by a pair of F-16s. Quite a sight to see the barrel rolls and other roller coaster-like maneuvers necessary by the jet pilots to maintain contact as they escorted the much slower Cessna to an airstrip not too far from where I was staying.

13 posted on 02/20/2017 11:21:07 AM PST by Hatteras
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It happens. I know 2 pilots personally that violated Bush 2’s airspace in Texas early on. At the time it was not on the charts and they had failed to get a briefing before making a VFR flight which is a good idea but not a requirement.

One received a visit from the Secret Service open landing but no penalty the second receive a 6 month suspension of his certificate.


14 posted on 02/20/2017 11:22:03 AM PST by Okieshooter
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Unlike in the NE, the pilots in Florida aren’t used to worrying about TFR’s.. my guess... I’ll bet almost all were on their way to have a 100 dollar hamburger


15 posted on 02/20/2017 11:27:53 AM PST by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures)
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To: PghBaldy

Until they actually shoot some of them down the problem will simply get worse.........until one of them intentionally crashes into Trump’s aircraft or shoots into it.

The time has come to let all who ignore the laws to pay the penalty for even daring to circumvent it.


17 posted on 02/20/2017 11:54:01 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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FAA and or AOPA send out notams of TFR whenever the head guy is going to be around.
Notams=notice to airmen
TFR=temporary flight restrictions
It is your responsibility to know and you WILL have the FAA up your rear if you fail to comply.


20 posted on 02/20/2017 12:00:37 PM PST by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: PghBaldy

Fortunately, none of them was Harrison Ford...


24 posted on 02/20/2017 1:01:02 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Get used to it - President Donald J. Trump)
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The TFR’s for the pres are to dam BIG! I remember flying by AF1 on the ground at Los Alimitos, Ca. back when Reagan or Bush was pres. For the last 8 years I won’t even fly within hours of it coming here(LA). Seems it was always coming to Ca. for money. I make a living flying general aviation Cessna 172. Hopefully President Trump will never come to Los Angeles.


27 posted on 02/20/2017 1:12:28 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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I have no idea if this happens regularly but it seems to me like someone could be probing defenses.


29 posted on 02/20/2017 6:02:36 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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UPDATED: Feds: 12 planes violated Trump air space over weekend

WEST PALM BEACH At least 12 aircraft violated temporary flight restrictions through Monday afternoon for President Donald Trump’s Palm Beach Mar-a-Lago stay, with at least five of those having the unique experience of being buzzed by military aircraft, federal officials confirmed to The Palm Beach Post.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/local-govt--politics/feds-planes-violated-trump-air-space-over-weekend/cJ4hcf9SiyxuWtKOiUWf6H/

38 posted on 02/21/2017 1:05:50 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Just heard another sonic boom. Guess this is the new normal.


42 posted on 02/22/2017 8:24:16 AM PST by Cementjungle
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