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California bill calls for state-run healthcare system
Sacramento Bee ^ | February 17, 2017 | Taryn Luna and Jim Miller

Posted on 02/17/2017 1:26:50 PM PST by artichokegrower

With the healthcare of millions of Californians at stake if Congress repeals the Affordable Care Act, a state senator is introducing legislation Friday to establish a single-payer system.

Under single-payer, the state would negotiate prices for services and prescriptions with providers, pharmaceutical companies and others.

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To: artichokegrower
Lara envisions a system that would “cut out insurance company waste and duplication that currently exists.”

“There’s no more out-of-control co-pays and high deductibles,” he said.

I don't know about you, but I am confident in the ability of California to achieve these goals.


21 posted on 02/17/2017 1:44:29 PM PST by Reverend Wright (the snowflakes are having a meltdown !)
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To: artichokegrower

“Venezuela here I come
right back where I started from...”


22 posted on 02/17/2017 1:45:55 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Not tired of winning yet!)
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To: jazminerose

He shouldn’t bail them out at all. It would be the taxpayers from the other states paying for any bail out.


23 posted on 02/17/2017 1:47:08 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: TADSLOS

OK, not that’s funny.


24 posted on 02/17/2017 1:48:10 PM PST by umgud
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To: artichokegrower

I am all for SP in Cali so long as we can get rid of government interference in the medical market in the rest of the country. The comparison a couple of years down the road, maybe only one year, would be instructive and California has to fall to the bottom of the Communist pit so far is possible while still being part of the Union before there can be any turnaround.


25 posted on 02/17/2017 1:49:50 PM PST by arthurus
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To: artichokegrower

Gee wonder if they will provide coverage for Americans from other states too.


26 posted on 02/17/2017 1:49:56 PM PST by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: rbg81

I was working for a public employees union in CA when Facebook went public. They were celebrating in the office, why? Not because of an American success story, but because of all the tax money they would receive from the capital gains.


27 posted on 02/17/2017 1:50:08 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Agreed. Whether the rest of the country would be willing to let California totally sink remains to be seen.

I’m pretty sure we’ll find out in my lifetime.


28 posted on 02/17/2017 1:50:10 PM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: artichokegrower
Go ahead. Secede too.


29 posted on 02/17/2017 1:51:30 PM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: artichokegrower

And then there is Massachusetts.......


30 posted on 02/17/2017 1:52:27 PM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: jazminerose

I worked high in the ranks for a CA public employee union for ten years. I can testify as to the attitude they have towards the taxpayers in CA and the rest of the states. Not good. Any help they would get does not go to the good people of CA, it goes to the unions.


31 posted on 02/17/2017 1:54:12 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: stylin19a

OK, so 4.3b/626K ~ 6800 per person. Let’s assume Cali gets GREAT economies of scale and can get it down to 5000 pp. 38.8 million X 5K = 194b.

California’s budget is about $115b. Only a 79b shortfall, or $2,000 a month for every man, woman and child in California (including the illegals) — or $8K a year for a family of 4.

And that is HC alone and nothing else.

IOW a California single-payer system will more than double the budget.

Good luck with that you arrogant idiots.


32 posted on 02/17/2017 1:54:25 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Not tired of winning yet!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

We’ve enough hard lessons in this state. Single payer was a bridge to far even for the commies.


33 posted on 02/17/2017 1:54:36 PM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: artichokegrower

This will not save California any money because the state will have to administer the program — using high-cost, low-efficiency, affirmative action employees, while tax paying health providers go out of business. The illegals will flood the program, making it even more expensive.


34 posted on 02/17/2017 2:05:56 PM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: freedumb2003

assuming all yours is accurate...that’s only the first year.


35 posted on 02/17/2017 2:14:02 PM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: stylin19a

>>assuming all yours is accurate...that’s only the first year.<<

Please double check my math. I got the California Budget from the California website. The rest of my assumptions are in the post.

And yes, that does NOT include start-up costs. Which in crooked California would probably 1/2 year budget or more — call it $100b.


36 posted on 02/17/2017 2:19:17 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Not tired of winning yet!)
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To: Rusty0604

As one who fled California in 2015, I totally believe every word you said.

Escaping California was the best thing we ever did in our entire lives.


37 posted on 02/17/2017 2:19:53 PM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: artichokegrower

Money will be flowing out of California’s budget like water over the Oroville dam spillway.


38 posted on 02/17/2017 2:21:42 PM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: artichokegrower

He’ll no, don’t mess with health industry. Another money generates scheme.


39 posted on 02/17/2017 2:23:14 PM PST by Libertynotfree (Over spending, Over taxes, and Over regulation)
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To: artichokegrower

Meanwhile, Oroville Dam Rapidly Goes From Bad to Worse ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnH6ePmJOis


40 posted on 02/17/2017 2:26:35 PM PST by polymuser (There's a yuuuge basket of deportables.)
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