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Trump asks about autism in educators meeting
The Hill ^ | 2-14-17 | JORDAN FABIAN

Posted on 02/14/2017 12:35:11 PM PST by markomalley

President Trump quizzed a school principal about autism during a meeting with educators at the White House on Tuesday.

“Have you seen a big increase in the autism with the children?” Trump asked Jane Quenneville, the principal of a Virginia public school specializing in special education.

Quenneville responded that she has, and noted her school “has shifted its population” to accommodate more students with autism.

“So what’s going on with autism?” Trump asked. “When you look at the tremendous increase, it’s really such an incredible — it’s really a horrible thing to watch, the tremendous amount of increase. Do you have any idea?” Quenneville didn’t provide an explanation, but cited statistics showing that autism affects 1 in 66 or 68 children.

“Maybe we can do something,” Trump said, claiming the rate is “coming in even lower.”

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released data last March that showed 1 in 68 school-aged children are diagnosed with autism, unchanged from its previous estimate.

Trump did not say what he believes causes autism, but in the past he has linked vaccines to what he calls an “epidemic” of the condition. And 10 days before taking office, he met with leading vaccine skeptic Robert Kennedy Jr.

Scientists and researchers have found no evidence connecting vaccines to developmental disorders such as autism.

“Studies have shown that there is no link between receiving vaccines and developing [autism],” according to the CDC.


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To: 9YearLurker

“I’d certainly argue that equal opportunity isn’t cultural suicide—what are you talking about?”

I said equal opportunity for women. It’s a long argument to make, and I don’t want to highjack the thread.

“I am not in favor of quotas or identity preferences of any type. Are you suggesting that preferences should be instituted for men?”

No, I am suggesting that all preferences should be abolished, and the false feminist arguments that drove women into the workplace be rebutted.


61 posted on 02/14/2017 7:56:59 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: luckystarmom

“The ones I know do not use drugs!”

1. You don’t know all of them.
2. Many employed people are “discreet.”


62 posted on 02/14/2017 8:15:19 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: markomalley

We deserve to know. We deserve to have some researchers and universities start getting funds for rates of brain damage including autism in the early vaccinated, the later vaccinated, and the not vaccinated. There is one study with only a thousand kids, and the unvaccinated had significantly less brain dysfunction conditions like autism. The later vaccinated had less, the group with the most autism etc was those who had multiple vaccines on the American Academy of Pediatrics official timeline, as newborns of only a few months old.

There may be different bacteria biomes in babies that determine which infants will have life long sequelae of these shots, and which won’t have any problems. Best would be to understand these delicate systems FIRST, you know, DO NO HARM, and then come up with a scan or test to see which toddlers are ready for vaccines.


63 posted on 02/14/2017 8:22:41 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: dsc

These were mom’s and I know moms! I’vr also been around enough people who have done drugs to know the difference.

They were not doing drugs!

The moms I’m talking about didn’t even drink much.

They had too much to do: multiple kids and one with special needs.


64 posted on 02/14/2017 8:45:27 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

“I’vr also been around enough people who have done drugs to know the difference.”

You have probably been around people who are high all day every day and didn’t pick up on it.

You have certainly been around weekend pot smokers and didn’t pick up on it.

“Reefer Madness” is fiction. Bad fiction, at that.


65 posted on 02/14/2017 8:57:28 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: luckystarmom

look at the chemicals/poisons/toxins within people that have autism. You will find the answer.


66 posted on 02/14/2017 10:03:52 PM PST by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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To: Mr. Douglas
Yes it is, and the response from the article is similar to what happened when my daughter asked questions about scriptures used to support eternal torture rather than annihilation of the lost. The teacher said her question were borderline heretical.

Have you ever read the Apocalypse of Peter? It wasn't written by the Apostle Peter however. The writer just wrote it under the name of the Apostle.

Anyway, it's pretty horrific in it's description of what happens to those who go to hell.

Not suggesting I agree with eternal punishment or that I agree with annihilation. I just wanted to bring it to your attention in case you never read it. I have the link to it below. I was struck by the punishment for those who abort their children. Obviously it would mean for those who never repented.

Apocalypse of Peter
67 posted on 02/14/2017 11:18:34 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a humble Christian waiting to go home)
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To: dsc

But it sounds as if you are in favor of effective preferences for men—which IMO are as wrong as preferences for women.


68 posted on 02/15/2017 2:12:29 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: SubMareener

I know several people who are actually experts in the field, it’s not just vaccines, but GMO’s too. Monsanto has a lot of explaining to do, and Soros and Gates have BIG TIES to Monsanto.

President Trump Warns Flu Shots are the Greatest “Scam” in Medical History
http://washingtonfeed.com/trump-warns-flu-shots-are-the-greatest-scam-in-medical-history.html#.WJNNIryUkeA.facebook

The Gardasil Problem: How The U.S. Lost Faith In A Promising Vaccine
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2012/04/04/americas-gardasil-problem-how-politics-poisons-public-health/#304a14bb7273

Heroin Overdoses v Bill Gates and George Soros fund Monsanto and a world depopulation agenda
http://www.naturalnews.com/054899_eugenics_GMO_Bill_Gates.html#ixzz4Sl0D3wb9

When you think of Bill Gates, think Margaret SANGER the EUGENICIST Bill Gates and George Soros fund Monsanto and a world depopulation agenda
http://www.naturalnews.com054899_eugenics_GMO_Bill_Gates.html#ixzz4Sl0D3wb

Look deep enough you will find more. Garadisil vaccine scandal http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2908963/Judges-demand-answers-children-die-controversial-cancer-vaccine-trial-India.html

Bill Gates Vaccinations to be Used to ‘Reduce Population’
http://www.eyeopening.info/2017/01/22/bill-gates-vaccinations-used-reduce-population?utm_source=Eye+Opening+Newsletter&utm_campaign=78ca36c6e6-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1fecb8a55b-78ca36c6e6-180715177#.WITQw5LY-i4

Gardasil Vaccine: Spain Joins Growing List of Countries to File Criminal Complaints, India, Japan
https://healthimpactnews.com/2014/gardasil-vaccine-spain-joins-growing-list-of-countries-to-file-criminal-complaints/

historical vaccine information.
http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/statistics.htm


69 posted on 02/15/2017 6:02:12 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Willie Nelson has smoked MMJ for decades, he is 83, had lung issues for years, had stem cell treatment for it. Had to cancel many concerts for this year due to lung issues. And many think it’s safe? I don’t, I watched my parents die of lung cancer from just smoking.


70 posted on 02/15/2017 6:06:05 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: GailA

The good news is that Donald Trump knows all about this.


71 posted on 02/15/2017 6:10:01 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: SubMareener

Hopefully it will see some improvement. There is no reason a newborn needs a vaccine before leaving the hospital. Much less 9 in 1 day.

Gardasil is dangerous. My healthy active grand daughter’s ignorant mom, listened to the PED. Got her the 3 shots. She now has RA and Fibromyalgia, both life long painful health conditions with no cures. RA will put a once healthy promising Ribbon Gymnast in a wheel chair eventually. The drugs they have her on only help a little and have HUGE side effects. Humeria is a HORRID drug. FMS responds to very few meds, Valium which is DEA restricted works the best. But very short term 4 hr drug. Lyrica has like 300 side effects and is the most commonly prescribed drug for FMS. And they keep expanding it’s usage. BTW it’s also on the DEA list as it is HIGHLY ADDICTIVE more so than Morphine.


72 posted on 02/15/2017 6:39:46 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: Norseman

I guess we’re all just freelancing here, but I would think there have been plenty of women in northern climates—in the US, Canada and Europe, especially—who have long been vitamin D deficient in the latter gestation and at birth, without an autism pattern to match it. Also, I think dyslexia is largely, though not exclusively, developed out of confusion in how reading is taught. My guess is that folks are onto something with the too-many vaccinations theory.


73 posted on 02/15/2017 7:16:28 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: OneVike

Yeah, I would not read such a document. It kind of reminds me of when I was a juror in Superior court.

One of the last parts of the trial was the part about what justified the damages to be awarded if they won. It was moot because I knew they were going to lose.

I see it as a work of science fiction. But it is easy for me because I’m a very binary thinker. It has its drawbacks but is critical in this sort of case.

Non-binary thinkers on a jury might be swayed by the brutality of a crime to convict the defendant, when the brutality has nothing to do with whether he is actually guilty or not. It appeals to their sense of “someone has to pay”, and ignores that maybe he’s the wrong guy.

Same here. It may be horrific, but since it is fiction it is irrelevant. It also doe not jibe with the personality of the God of the bible. Annihilation does. In spades.


74 posted on 02/15/2017 7:53:43 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: 9YearLurker

“But it sounds as if you are in favor of effective preferences for men—which IMO are as wrong as preferences for women.”

What in the world is an “effective preference?”

I said I wanted all such things abolished, and your next remark is that it “sounds” like I’m in favor of something called an “effective preference.”

Unless “effective preference” is libspeak for “no preference,” I think you’re off the track.


75 posted on 02/15/2017 10:51:43 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Yes, there are plenty of vitamin D3 deficient women in northern climates. However, unless they possess a genetic tendency toward autism, the theory is that their D3 deficiency won’t result in autistic children. And even if they are deficient, it might take an additional insult to the immune system to actually trigger autism symptoms. That’s where the vaccinations enter the picture.

This makes some sense to me given the many anecdotal reports of parents realizing a very sudden change in their child’s behavior shortly after a vaccination. I’m not, however, saying that all autism is caused by vaccinations. Any insult to the immune system might trigger the onset of symptoms, such as a serious illness, for example.

Again, I’m pro-vaccination, but I still think we need to consider the possibility that some children need to be vaccinated with more care than others.

As for dyslexia, I too once thought as you do, i.e., that it’s based on poor reading instruction. After much experience, I no longer believe that. In fact, I think we’ll find eventually that most kids who struggle to learn to read are experiencing developmental vision issues such as poor binocular vision skills, etc. I also think we’ll find that a D3 deficiency causes poor development (including the immune system, but also visual and gross motor skills) and that’s why I included dyslexia and ADHD in the spectrum I discussed. Obviously, this is controversial, but I’m fairly convinced I’m on the right track on this.


76 posted on 02/15/2017 3:11:12 PM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Norseman

What makes you think the D3 is involved, other than the correlation between the rise of autism and the use of sunscreen?

And what kind of experience has made you change your mind re: dyslexia?


77 posted on 02/15/2017 3:15:43 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Here’s the paper in which Dr. John Cannell presented his theory linking D3 and Autism: http://www.direct-ms.org/pdf/VitDNonAuto/Cannell%20Autism%20Vit%20D.pdf

And here’s a page from a site that discusses the parallels between autism and dyslexia: http://www.ontrackreading.com/dyslexia-puzzle/vitamin-d3-and-autism Clearly it’s speculative in nature.

For my own part, I taught phonics to poor readers for several years and eventually decided something other than a deficit in phonics knowledge was going on with most of the kids I worked with. That led me to learn about vision therapy. And it’s the link between developmental vision issues and reading issues that caused me to change my mind on dyslexia and its presumed causes. I started very much in the phonics camp, but experience working with kids before and after vision therapy made it clear (to me anyway) that deficient vision skills have to be considered as a potential primary cause of reading problems.

If you get into some reading websites where parents are trying to solve their own child’s reading issues, you’ll find a large number of them who, although once skeptical of both the cost and efficacy of vision therapy, now swear that it was the answer to turning their child into a reader. And many of them had tried any number of intensive phonics approaches with limited success.


78 posted on 02/16/2017 11:41:32 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Norseman

Thank you for your careful reply—I look forward to reading your links about these hypotheses.


79 posted on 02/16/2017 12:09:55 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Norseman

Thank you for your careful reply—I look forward to reading your links about these hypotheses.


80 posted on 02/16/2017 12:09:55 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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