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Where is Gov high speed train? 100billion dollars later.....never fixed the dam. Payed his union pensions, illegals. Infrastructure.....***crickets***
1 posted on 02/14/2017 5:14:04 AM PST by ColdOne
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Ah, the “chaos” buzzword with which to associate Trump.

Big Media sure is good with a “narrative”.

Even many HERE will believe everything they read, as long as it’s not DIRECTLY related to politics.


2 posted on 02/14/2017 5:18:12 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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and will want federal disaster relief, despite boasting how they would be self sufficient when they secede from the the rest of the country.
3 posted on 02/14/2017 5:19:14 AM PST by sappy (criminaldems)
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Moonbeams fault


4 posted on 02/14/2017 5:20:24 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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Don’t imagine this has done much for the property values.


5 posted on 02/14/2017 5:20:27 AM PST by umgud
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This is the fault of the politicians who believe in Global Warming and that these snow/rain levels would not happen for the next 30 years. Democrats thought those predictions were real and no need to worry about water structures.

Pray America woke


6 posted on 02/14/2017 5:23:14 AM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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The result of poor allocation of resurces by the State of California.

If California state assemblymen and the various recent governors had not gone whoring after the phantom of a “bullet train”, and WASTED BILLIONS on the “train to nowhere”, there would have been funds aplenty to have done the necessary maintenance work on the Oroville dam YEARS ago. But of course dams are “bad”, in the eyes of the froot loops bat-guano crazy political majority in California now, and their destruction is but one of the many courses of action they deem to be “environmentally necessary”.

So how well is this self-destruction of the Oroville dam in any way less than an environmental disaster, by any measure?

Live by the politically correct, die by the politically correct.


7 posted on 02/14/2017 5:24:49 AM PST by alloysteel (John Galt has chosen to take the job. This time, Atlas did NOT shrug.)
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It was sudden, potentially deadly — and nothing any of the residents of a California valley town could have imagined.

It was not sudden, problems have been known for years and left unaddressed by the Democrat state government. As far as being unimaginable, what idiot thinks no one living below a 700 foot high earthen dam worried about it? Solid concrete dams less than half that height are pretty ominous looking, when viewed from downstream. The only thing they get right is the "potentially deadly" part.

8 posted on 02/14/2017 5:25:11 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Leftist are hard-wired to finger-point others at fault.


9 posted on 02/14/2017 5:25:46 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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A really important issue here is that with any major evacuation (think Katrina), means of self defense, especially guns, are *vital*.

While these evacuees are mostly “honest people”, a lot of them are going to be ‘strapped’ for money and the essentials of life, wherever they have evacuated to. As soon as they leave, the clock is running.

An evacuation before a possible disaster is also a great time to evaluate the effectiveness of SHTF planning, so needs to be carefully watched to see what happens.


10 posted on 02/14/2017 5:26:54 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Leftists aren't fascists. They are "democratic fascists", a completely different thing.)
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It is fortunate that the dam did not fail at that time.

I was watching the evacuation and could not believe the escape route was a bridge over the feather river, the river that that flood would follow. I saw a line of cars barely moving over that bridge.

If the dam had failed as warned (within the hour) thousands would have died trapped in their cars.

While the government has most blame for the chaos of the evacuation, those living in the area share the blame.

I actually saw a line at a gas station as people lined up to get gas. I could not believe how many people living in the shadow of a disaster would not keep their car topped off.

Personally I would have self evacuated when the water topped the emergency spillway. The people of Oroville were very lucky.


11 posted on 02/14/2017 5:30:44 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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The headline is incorrect. The dam was not breached. The dam itself is fine.

The main spillway sustained damage which they are attempting to repair before the next storm. Because of the damage to the main spillway, that spillway could not handle the PSI it was rated to handle. Water had to be diverted to the auxiliary spillway, which was not designed to handle what they sent to it, so that spillway was being eroded as well.

Add to that the fact that the turbines were plugged with debris so they had to be stopped. They’re cleaning them out to get them going again.

Reporting is so bad on this.


13 posted on 02/14/2017 5:35:27 AM PST by randita (PLEASE STOP ALL THE WORTHLESS VANITIES!)
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I recommend the book Johnstown Flood by McCullough. In the late 19th century, the elite had a private lake up in the Pennsylvania mountains. The dam breached and the story of the flood ensued. Great book.


16 posted on 02/14/2017 5:41:17 AM PST by Mercat (Men never do evil so fully and cheerfully as when they do it out of conscience.” (Blaise Pascal))
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Democrats were thinking, why do dam maintenance on one of the most dangerous dams in America? If the dam breaks all of a sudden, think of all the guns we’ll get rid of. Why, it’s better than registration and confiscation. And all those rich people who have been reveling in their white privilege... gone. Bonus, bonus! Getting rid of a million of them is just like bringing in two million illegal aliens!

Okay, okay, I’m just kidding - a little.


17 posted on 02/14/2017 5:47:54 AM PST by LibWhacker
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The problem is actually negligence. On DEC 8, the dam was only holding 1.5 million acre-feet. As of FEB 11, it was holding 3.57 million acre-feet, it’s full capacity. For two whole months, they watched it skyrocket, and did nothing about it. Had they been releasing water steadily since DEC 8, like everyone else has been, they would have no problem now. But now, even releasing everything at full capacity will not be enough to stay ahead of the volume that is coming, especially with the 6 days of rain that start in 2 days. That’s why the failure will begin at the auxiliary spillway, and not at the dam or the main spillway, (which are both being worked on at the moment, but will not be able to prevent the failure, even if they are both repaired and opened to full capacity by tomorrow).


18 posted on 02/14/2017 5:48:35 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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Whether it’s a flood of water or a flood of illegals the state of Ca govt is incompetent at securing and maintaining safe borders of security.


19 posted on 02/14/2017 5:49:20 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny (agent Able Deplor))
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...after California dam breach
The dam was NOT breached. Another example of fake news and/or 21st Century journalism.
22 posted on 02/14/2017 5:54:51 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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The extreme lesson of letting failed Libtards run the state. Moonbeam twice! What did “conservative” Californians do? They ran to successful states and once entrenched told them that they were doing it all wrong and that wasn’t the way they did it in California. My estimation is that the problem goes back to California’s failed education system. They can well take all that sanctuary money, train money, Calexit money and cheap illegal labor and get themselves out of this one. That would be an education.


26 posted on 02/14/2017 6:00:11 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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It was not and is not pure chaos. One person does not speak for 188,000.

We live about 40 miles downstream from the Oroville Dam. We evacuated Sunday evening around 6:00 p.m. and returned home around midnight. All our stuff is packed by the front door in case the overflow spillway collapses which it is pretty much a foregone conclusion. We have a son-in-law who works at Oroville Dam and that is what his supervisors have told him. But the lake should be significantly lower by the time that happens.

Yes, traffic was bumper to bumper for miles but you heard very little honking of horns, people made room for vehicles to change lanes and enter traffic from side streets.

Fairgrounds opened their gates with very short notice. The Colusa County Fairgrounds was not aware it was listed as an evacuation site until people started arriving there. They opened the gates to the parking lot and allowed people to stay there until they could get the grounds ready.

All in all, it has been an extremely orderly process.

31 posted on 02/14/2017 6:07:54 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals w.ould have no standtairds at all -- Texas Eagle)
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It’s a sanctuary state though.


32 posted on 02/14/2017 6:08:41 AM PST by ealgeone
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Nearly 200,000 face ‘pure chaos’ after California dam breach

So...the dam did let go then?

33 posted on 02/14/2017 6:12:00 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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