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H-1B Visa Bill Introduced In US, Minimum Pay More Than Doubled
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Posted on 01/31/2017 12:00:03 PM PST by bryan999

Washington: A legislation has been introduced in the US House of Representatives which among other things calls for more than doubling the minimum salary of H-1B visa holders to $130,000, making it difficult for firms to use the programme to replace American employees with foreign workers, including from India.

The High-Skilled Integrity and Fairness Act of 2017 introduced by California Congressman Zoe Lofgren prioritises market based allocation of visas to those companies willing to pay 200 per cent of a wage calculated by survey, eliminates the category of lowest pay, and raises the salary level at which H-1B dependent employer are exempt from non-displacement and recruitment attestation requirements to greater than $130,000.

This is more than double of the current H-1B minimum wage of $60,000 which was established in 1989 and since then has remained unchanged.

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To: bryan999

“...introduced by California Congressman Zoe Lofgren..”

Actually, Zoe Lofgren is an evil bitch, so it S/B congressWOMAN.


21 posted on 01/31/2017 12:19:55 PM PST by vette6387
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To: bryan999

Solution = Shut down the H1B program.


22 posted on 01/31/2017 12:20:25 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Why is it no one ever discusses the rabid Amerophobia which infects Islam and its adherents?)
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To: Organic Panic

I am against all immigration. It has been abused since 1965. Needs to stop fro along time.


23 posted on 01/31/2017 12:22:02 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bryan999

I used to process H-1B Visa’s all the time. I worked for a Japanese company (producing silicon chips) who had a Main facility actually in Japan. They used the H-1B Visas to bring people from their Japan location, into the USA.

These were Engineers, fabricators (making wafers which are scored and broken into the little tiny dots of silicon) which are then inserted into the modern phones and other electronic equipment.

H-1B was never intended to be used for the average line worker .. they were intended for the college educated and higher paid salaried workers. We never used them for the line workers - ever.


24 posted on 01/31/2017 12:23:31 PM PST by CyberAnt (Peace through Strength)
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To: Timpanagos1

What wage controls? They’re free to pay an American citizen any wage they can get him to agree to. This law aims to prevent them from sidestepping normal supply and demand by finding people willing to work for nothing, but with no legal right to work here, then getting the government to waive the rules about employment of non-citizens. In cases where there really are insufficient Americans to fill the positions, you can make the argument for H1B, but if the resulting wages are lower than American wages, it becomes obvious what they’re doing.


25 posted on 01/31/2017 12:24:57 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: bryan999

This is a good step, but they also need to cover the other end of it — outsourcing the jobs entirely to a foreign service provider. Call centers and IT hubs and cloud computing and engineering design offices overseas are all cheap foreign labor scams. American labor costs are replaced with Accounts Payable entries — just as deductible from profits but with none of the taxes paid into FICA and Personal Income Tax accounts. Worse, it is money that is not circulating in our economy, but in a foreign country’s economy.

Payments to service providers overseas should not be tax deductible business expenses. At the very least that would make those services effectively more expensive. Maybe also collect the full 15.3% FICA taxes and individual income taxes at a flat top marginal rate on those payments. I haven’t thought of a workable better alternative to discouraging foreign services, but that would be a start.


26 posted on 01/31/2017 12:26:08 PM PST by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: Organic Panic

Any “genius” that invents something or is a super specialist in some scientific or medical area can come to the USA anytime. Nobody is going to stop them. A university will get them in/sponsor them. You don’t need an H-1B visa quota at all. There aren’t 65,000 Albert Einsteins in the entire world. Maybe 10 tops.


27 posted on 01/31/2017 12:28:12 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kellis91789

H-1B visas are not for filling the ranks of call centers.


28 posted on 01/31/2017 12:29:14 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bryan999

“A legislation has been introduced...”

Seems they have farmed out this article to a non-American writer.


29 posted on 01/31/2017 12:31:37 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: bryan999

“The High-Skilled Integrity and Fairness Act of 2017 introduced by California Congressman Zoe Lofgren prioritises market based allocation of visas to those companies willing to pay 200 per cent of a wage calculated by survey, eliminates the category of lowest pay, and raises the salary level at which H-1B dependent employer are exempt from non-displacement and recruitment attestation requirements to greater than $130,000.”

Looks like a step in the right direction, but I’d read the fine print.

Immigration legislation has a long history of deceptive characteristics intended to make a bill that actually increases immigration sound like it will reduce immigration. Or the same thing with enforcement, guest workers etc.


30 posted on 01/31/2017 12:31:51 PM PST by WatchungEagle
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To: bryan999
This really won't stop the abuse at all. Companies will post jobs that no human could do then say nobody can fill it. Then the 130K salary cap means nothing. Business as usual. Window dressing.

Just kill the damn thing.

31 posted on 01/31/2017 12:37:05 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bryan999

Guy... this is a good thing.. and i think Trump will like it because it is creative

In high tech company replace domestic Hi-Tech workes / domestic engineers...with cheap foreign labor using H-1B program. Which is supposed to only be used for finding workers that you can’t find in the US

I saw this first hand at American Express’s Datacenter American Express owns whole apartment blocks where they hire and house cheap Indian labor

So effectively if you need an H-1B hire you have to pay double the rate ... effective with putting a tariff on them

So a company if they really can’t find the worker in the u.s. then will pay the freight but they won’t use the H-1B to get cheap labor an undercut American engineers

Its a great idea to end h1b program abuse without blocking its used for what it was intended for unique talent that they simply can’t find in the US


32 posted on 01/31/2017 12:39:11 PM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: bryan999

I am not much of a union guy. But to me it is pretty obvious that STEM workers need to organize and fight for work visa elimination and higher wages. Yes, a STEM union. Yeah I said it.


33 posted on 01/31/2017 12:40:53 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: tophat9000
Its a great idea to end h1b program abuse without blocking its used for what it was intended for unique talent that they simply can’t find in the US

Such bull sh!t. There are maybe 10 people in the world that have abilities and talent that cannot be found in the USA. Not 65,000.

34 posted on 01/31/2017 12:43:17 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Spktyr
Indexing is a good idea.

Something needs to be done to stop these new indentured servants from taking American jobs.

Big business and big government are both guilty of conniving in this H1B scam.

G.K. Chesterton recognized that big government and big business are just two sides of the same coin with common interests; he called them "Hudge and Gudge."

35 posted on 01/31/2017 12:52:01 PM PST by Martin Tell (Honey Badger Don't Care.)
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To: central_va

Why is it bull shit?? Labor is a prduct

Do you support tariff on foreign product import or do you support simply banning product import?

Putting a limit of putting a price of double the market rate on foreign labor is a tariff on foreign labor effectively limiting its use to when needed

...look im an IT network engineer...and I travel all the time outside of the US to work ..reason being that our US Company sells our product and service overseas they need to send their people over there that’s been trained on it..

In the last two yers ive worked in eight different foreign countries both in South America and Asia... oddly the hardest place to go in to do work is Canada they’re very strict


36 posted on 01/31/2017 12:56:54 PM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: central_va

I was at New Delhi Airport and one guy approached me to fill his airport embankment card. That guy was illiterate in English, no college education, but had H1 B visa, sponsored by Silicon Valley IT company.
They use fake degree, fake experience, some one else give interviews and they get H1B visa.

My cousin in UK, started taking pictures of those come for job interview in India and compare with picture on visa application.


37 posted on 01/31/2017 12:57:50 PM PST by jennychase
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To: Spktyr
Given inflation and history, they should not name a fixed number for the salary or we’ll be right back here in 20-some years. Rather, it should be a number indexed to something - say, 4 times the median US citizen salary for that position.

The system Japan uses is a 25% premium over the prevailing wage.

It makes sense that if you need t hire a premium employee unavailable domestically, you should be willing to pay a premium wage!

38 posted on 01/31/2017 1:00:09 PM PST by null and void (Trump's critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it.)
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To: bryan999

Exceptionally good new. The floor is still too low, but it’s better than $60K.


39 posted on 01/31/2017 1:01:25 PM PST by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: uncommonsense

If the SillyKorn valley Billionaires Boy club doesn’t complain about it, you will then know that it has no teeth.


40 posted on 01/31/2017 1:07:01 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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