Posted on 01/30/2017 6:50:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Like the talk of secession in conservative southern states after Barack Obama became president, the idea of a separate California Republic builds on long-standing separatist feelings amplified by a momentous national election. Since Donald Trump became president while securing less than a third of the vote in California, the Yes California campaign a.k.a. Calexit has gotten a lot of attention and perhaps even some momentum in getting an initial measure placed on 2018 general election ballot. An estimated 7,000 volunteers have begun amassing the 585,407 signatures necessary to place a constitutional amendment on the 2018 ballot deleting the states adherence to the United States and authorizing a 2019 referendum on independence.
The arguments for Calexit are pretty simple: The state is drifting ever-further away from the rest of the country in cultural attitudes and public policies, especially with respect to immigration and the environment. Californias size and wealth (its GDP is similar to that of France) make it the one state that might make a go of it alone.
It is also a donor state when it comes to the relationship of federal taxes collected from Californians to the federal spending conducted there; one recent analysis showed California ranking 46th among the states in relative dependence on Washington.
But its clear the main reason for sudden interest in Calexit is Donald J. Trump, and the possibility a federal Republican regime under his direction would preempt California preferences on a wide range of issues. Even though Governor Jerry Brown and other statewide Democratic elected officials have kept their distance from Calexit, the saber-rattling they have conducted about the states willingness to fight Trump and the GOP in court has undoubtedly fed the Calexit sentiment. The latest Trump provocation, threatening sanctuary cities with the cancellation of all federal funds,
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No.
Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
We can hope so but I’d say they won’t.
I’d like to see them try.
I think between the revolutionary crowd, the university students, and the far-right crowd....yes, there will be enough votes to carry the measure.
Beyond that step? I don’t think any method exists to allow them to leave. I personally would like for them to find a method, allowing them to exit and for the Jefferson-state crowd to re-enter the US as it’s own state, with the remainder on a two-year hike to bankruptcy.
Secede? That Nanny state would fold in 90 days.
>> Dont let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
San Andreas?
If California can secede, Jefferson can secede.
Without Jefferson, what will they do for pot?
How can non Californians help make this a reality? We need a parallel effort in the other 49 to expel California. #CalGone!
No, they’re all talk, like Scotland.
I wish they would though. Can you imagine how hard it would be for Democrats to win the White House without that slam dunk fifty-five electoral votes?
Sure, and then the rest of the state will secede from Los Angeles and San Francisco.
RE: If California can secede, Jefferson can secede.
Pardon my ignorance... but where is Jefferson?
Maybe they could come up with a referendum calling the thing Sovereignty Association like Quebec did. Basically it was we make up our own rules but keep sending us money.
Secession is not unconstitutional. At all, in the least.
The MSM and Moonbeam Brown are delusional. Look at the county by county map of CA. A huge segment of CA isn’t Liberal and wants no part of this Liberal lunacy.
If this starts to get serious, expect an large exodus of companies leaving California.
Then see what happens.
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