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California Could Cut Off Feds In Response To Trump Threats
KPIX CBS Bay Area ^ | January 27th, 2017 | Melissa Caen

Posted on 01/28/2017 7:22:24 PM PST by Mariner

SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) – The state of California is studying ways to suspend financial transfers to Washington after the Trump administration threatened to withhold federal money from sanctuary cities, KPIX 5 has learned.

Officials are looking for money that flows through Sacramento to the federal government that could be used to offset the potential loss of billions of dollars’ worth of federal funds if President Trump makes good on his threat to punish cities and states that don’t cooperate with federal agents’ requests to turn over undocumented immigrants, a senior government source in Sacramento said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alien; calexit; california; democrats; first100days; illegals; jerrybrown; sanctuarycities; trump; trump45
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To: SoFloFreeper

Comes to gun laws the left thinks state laws, but when the marriage sham homosexual crap comes up they say states cannot decide. The left are just babies having tantrums all the time.


81 posted on 01/28/2017 8:17:54 PM PST by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: McGavin999
Shock and Awe over San Francisco

To start, cancel SF's lease of Hetch Hetchy in Yosemite, and offer its water to the agricultural people.

That might get their attention that adults are in charge.

82 posted on 01/28/2017 8:18:13 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Also readers need to be reminded that withholding taxes, which include Medicare and Social Security, are deposited in a participating bank (I forget the correct description) and through the magic of electronic transfers are in the hands of the treasury by the next day.

So the states are not in possession of that money either.

I am not aware of how the federal gas tax is handled, but it does not matter because it is plainly described as a federal tax and any attempt to divert it to anyone else would be a federal crime.

I suspect that it goes directly to the feds in some manner similar to how sales tax is collected by the states.


83 posted on 01/28/2017 8:18:29 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: proud American in Canada
I don’t know much about this, but I am guessing CA receives far more from the feds than the state gives to the US government.

You would be vastly mistaken.

84 posted on 01/28/2017 8:19:29 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Mariner

It doesn’t work that way.

Remember the eight years Obama spent souping up the IRS?

Time to turn that rabid dog loose on California.

Let’s see what liberals think of taxes after they get ass raped with IRS’s broken bottle. :)


85 posted on 01/28/2017 8:31:19 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Interesting! Thank you for the info, FRiend!

Certainly people in North America would not have the fresh fruit and vegetables all year long without CA.

The state really is a gift.


86 posted on 01/28/2017 8:32:42 PM PST by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the U.S.A. (Trump: I will bear the slings and arrows for you, the American people))
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To: Timpanagos1

“States that send more money to the federal government than they receive, could suspend payments to the Feds.”

Please tell me what money CA sends to the feds.

Income tax on individuals and corporations does NOT count.


87 posted on 01/28/2017 8:33:03 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Mariner

Maybe Georgie Soros could subsidize California until they get over their tantrum.


88 posted on 01/28/2017 8:33:27 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As long as tyranny exists, the Constitution and Bill of Right will never be "outdated" or "obsolete")
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To: Timpanagos1

“States that send more money to the federal government than they receive, could suspend payments to the Feds.”

States don’t send money. People and corporations do.

You can’t possibly not know that.


89 posted on 01/28/2017 8:48:37 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Timpanagos1

What “payments to the Feds” are you talking about exactly?

I pay my taxes to Uncle Sam. Directly. And I would continue to do so for so long as I am in this state.

Let’s say they tried this. There is an easy, Constitutionally-vetted and approved response:

Marshal law. Arrests of all CA public officials involved in this act of rebellion. Military Governor appointed and habeas corpus suspended. I am sure that there would be no shortage of volunteers from both within and without the state to help enforce Federal Law.


90 posted on 01/28/2017 8:49:36 PM PST by Simon Foxx
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To: Mariner
They're whistling Dixie.

With a lisp.

91 posted on 01/28/2017 8:57:29 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: Simon Foxx

“Marshal law. Arrests of all CA public officials involved in this act of rebellion.”

Who is Marshal?

Why does he get to make laws?


92 posted on 01/28/2017 9:00:51 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1
Who is Marshal?

Sisters Ros and Verity. They're Australian.

93 posted on 01/28/2017 9:06:51 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Bob

As the article stated.

““They could recommend non-compliance with the federal tax code.””

I’m not saying it’s a great idea, but it would be interesting to see if one state condoned or recommend non compliance with federal tax code.


94 posted on 01/28/2017 9:07:34 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Mariner
Reminds me of when those idiot mormons refused to abide by our laws concerning polygamy and the feds threatened to push them into messyco. The mormons backed down.

The red counties in kali need to be pushed into messyco. Or the Atlantic. Either would be fine.

95 posted on 01/28/2017 9:09:13 PM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: Timpanagos1

96 posted on 01/28/2017 9:10:13 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: EinNYC

“My whole life, people I’ve met from California have been a bit “off”, ranging from a little eccentric to full-blown loonies.”

My whole life, I’ve met wonderful people from California. I’ve got friends in California who are very conservative and I have conservative friends who moved from California to Colorado lock, stock and barrel. One brought a fifty million dollar company with him. Another joined the Boulder County Sheriff’s Department out of Long Beach and recently retired at the Sargent level.

I’ve traveled and vacationed in several parts of rural California, and the people there are solid, conservative citizens and wonderful people like ALL parts of non-urban America in all states. I’ve patronized many small family-operated oriental restaurants in San Francisco, owned and operated by very hard-working people. One of my best friends (who is very conservative) lives in the San Diego area and works for the Navy. I’m pretty sure he’ll leave when he retires and take his large retirement with him, away from the reach of California taxes.


97 posted on 01/28/2017 9:10:30 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: LouAvul

Blue.


98 posted on 01/28/2017 9:11:12 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: Bob

“While I could be wrong, I’m thinking that the vast majority of money sent to the feds from any state is from private businesses. They pay their withholding and social security deductions from their payroll directly to the feds. That money doesn’t go through Sacramento. “

You’re not wrong. Furthermore, I can’t imagine that ANY state collects and remits large amounts of monies directly to the Feds: they’re pretty damn good at collecting their own money damn!


99 posted on 01/28/2017 9:12:36 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: LouAvul

Pacific.


100 posted on 01/28/2017 9:13:15 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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