Posted on 01/27/2017 1:53:32 PM PST by SeekAndFind
California has granted a pro-secession group 180 days to gather enough signatures to get their Calexit initiative on the ballot. From the Hill:
The California secretary of state’s office announced that the group could begin collecting signatures on Thursday.
The group needs 585,407 signatures from registered voters over the next 180 days to qualify for the ballot.
The mechanism here is not very straightforward. If the Yes California Independence Campaign can gather the needed signatures in time, that would put an initiative on the ballot next year. That initiative, if passed, would change portions of the California constitution and set up a California nationhood election in 2019. From the LA Times:
If the measure gets on the ballot and gains approval by a majority of voters, it would repeal clauses in the California Constitution stating that the state is an “inseparable part of the United States” and that the U.S. Constitution is the “supreme law of the land,” according to the title and summary prepared by the state attorney general’s office.
The measure would place another question on the ballot in 2019, asking whether California should become a separate country. If at least half of registered voters participate in that vote, with at least 55% of those voting to approve, the results would be treated as California’s declaration of independence.
If all of this sounds very fringe, keep in mind that a recent poll found 32% of Californians supported the idea of secession. So, at the very least, there should be millions of people willing to sign a petition to put this on the ballot next year. Given that this movement was accelerated by the election of Donald Trump its success or failure will probably depend on how President Trump is doing next year or, more precisely, how Democrats judge he is doing. Given the hair-on-fire response to his first week in office there’s not much reason to suppose things will settle down.
With recounts and faithless electors and protests unable to change the country’s course, angry progressives could decide secession is the only remaining path for ‘the resistance’ to take. Plus, the idea of declaring independence from Trump and ‘fly-over’ America might prove irresistible. Based on the polling, it already has for many on the left coast.
“On September 20, 1995, it was reported that the 478th Civil Affairs Battalion of the United States Army Reserve was to conduct a training exercise simulating an invasion of a foreign island. They were to land on Key West and conduct affairs as if the islanders were foreign. However, no one from the 478th notified Conch officials of the exercise.
Seeing another chance at publicity, Wardlow and the forces behind the 1982 Conch Republic secession mobilized the island for a full-scale war (in the Conch Republic, this involved firing water cannons from fireboats and hitting people with stale Cuban bread), and protested to the Department of Defense for arranging this exercise without consulting the City of Key West. The leaders of the 478th issued an apology the next day, saying they “in no way meant to challenge or impugn the sovereignty of the Conch Republic”, and submitted to a surrender ceremony on September 22.” from wiki
California would ignite a shooting intrastate civil war among its own citizens, as armed patriots would successfully resist the secession plans of the clueless and unprepared commies. The leftist loons would lose any and all armed engagements from Mt. Lassen to San Diego.
I’ll sign.....
Getting rid California works for me.
Yes .
Will it’s new name be State of Delusion?
The Europeans wisely maintained national borders to keep some ethnic/national groups separate from others. I think “Californian” is a group that ought to be on the other side of a wall from American.
For fun reading, read Stephen Coonts “Liberty’s Last Stand”. TX seceded from the USA and all federal facilities including bases and military planes belonged to the new government and arrests were made of federal officials. Lots of discussions took place about what to do about this or that and one that stuck in my mind was:
What do we do with the Fort Hood shooter?
Shoot him - we’re not going to feed and house him.
What do we do with the body?
Burn it!
A super book but then all his books make for great reading...
Delusion - depravity - degradation - there must be more beginning with “D” but they don’t come to mind right now.
Too bad we can’t just wall off the voting precincts that went Hillary. See if they can survive like Singapore.
Before shooting, Northern Californians should let Southern California know that if California secedes the Northern half would counter-secede and become the State of North California. This is how we got West Virginia.
Apportion the electors vote by county. Like ME and NB.
Otherwise Jerry, you might have an insurrection on your hands.
And then, CA will be liberated from the yoke of socialism.
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NE damnit.
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The difference was those states did not have Lincoln on their ballots at all. Breckenridge and Douglas took those states.
The Democrat split caused Lincoln to be elected. If they had held together with ONE candidate, Breckenridge or Douglas would have been elected, the Civil War would not have been fought and blacks would have been on their knees to their Democratic masters saying “Yassah, Nosah! Anything you say Massah”!
Instead Lincoln was elected, the Civil war fought, slaves freed, and 150 years later, the blacks are on their knees to their Democratic masters saying “Yassah, Nosah! Anything you say Massah”!
Oh wait!
Given the rampant vote fraud in California, I hope I can sign the petition and vote in favor of it, even though I’m a Texan.
“Before shooting, Northern Californians should let Southern California know that if California secedes the Northern half would counter-secede and become the State of North California.”
That, I believe, is how any secession would play out. The wimpy dopes in the big California cities would have no idea on how to deal with a counter-revolutionary, anti-secession movement from Northern and Central Valley Californian patriots.
Hey, San Francisco, we cut off your water. Whatchagonnadoaboutit, snowflakes?
Note to Kalifornica idiots........”Bring it you dumb asses”. Trump will build a wall around you too so don’t start something you cannot finish.
“Eleven state have tried this before. It did not go well for them.”
“It” did not go well for the other 24 either. The huge, ineffective, bloated, abusive federal government we have today is the result of the Appomattox disaster.
Bring it on! I can see California trying to get up an army out if it’s ranks of snowflakes and transgender faggots.
Now they can have their illegals and the dead vote!
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