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Calexit: Group has 180 days to collect signatures for secession
Hotair ^ | 01/27/2017 | John Sexton

Posted on 01/27/2017 1:53:32 PM PST by SeekAndFind

California has granted a pro-secession group 180 days to gather enough signatures to get their Calexit initiative on the ballot. From the Hill:

The California secretary of state’s office announced that the group could begin collecting signatures on Thursday.

The group needs 585,407 signatures from registered voters over the next 180 days to qualify for the ballot.

The mechanism here is not very straightforward. If the Yes California Independence Campaign can gather the needed signatures in time, that would put an initiative on the ballot next year. That initiative, if passed, would change portions of the California constitution and set up a California nationhood election in 2019. From the LA Times:

If the measure gets on the ballot and gains approval by a majority of voters, it would repeal clauses in the California Constitution stating that the state is an “inseparable part of the United States” and that the U.S. Constitution is the “supreme law of the land,” according to the title and summary prepared by the state attorney general’s office.

The measure would place another question on the ballot in 2019, asking whether California should become a separate country. If at least half of registered voters participate in that vote, with at least 55% of those voting to approve, the results would be treated as California’s declaration of independence.

If all of this sounds very fringe, keep in mind that a recent poll found 32% of Californians supported the idea of secession. So, at the very least, there should be millions of people willing to sign a petition to put this on the ballot next year. Given that this movement was accelerated by the election of Donald Trump its success or failure will probably depend on how President Trump is doing next year or, more precisely, how Democrats judge he is doing. Given the hair-on-fire response to his first week in office there’s not much reason to suppose things will settle down.

With recounts and faithless electors and protests unable to change the country’s course, angry progressives could decide secession is the only remaining path for ‘the resistance’ to take. Plus, the idea of declaring independence from Trump and ‘fly-over’ America might prove irresistible. Based on the polling, it already has for many on the left coast.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: calexit; california; europe; newcalifornia; secession; timdraper
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To: ronnie raygun
Now they can have their illegals and the dead vote!

They will need it. The initiative requires at least half of registered voters to vote on secession and at least 55% of those voters must vote for secession. The Mexican Invaders, fictitious voters, and the dead voters will be needed for the secession initiative to pass.

https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/Title%20and%20Summary%20%2816-0011%29.pdf?

101 posted on 01/27/2017 5:55:36 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: bk1000

It would be a good excuse to go in clean house and start with the reconstruction process. Clean the voting up, send millions back across the border ect. Put in a puppet regime of Trump supporters. Many in their legislation were put there with illegals voting. They are not a legit state now.


102 posted on 01/27/2017 7:06:31 PM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: Zakeet

THe ownership and supply of Ft. Sumter SC & SC attacking the fort were the opening shots of the Civil War. LEt the blue areas of CA seced and the red parts stay. THe will starve and thirst to death,


103 posted on 01/27/2017 7:10:24 PM PST by georgiarat (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Volttai)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where do I sign to let county by county (in California) exit? So long or is it adios m’fckers?


104 posted on 01/27/2017 7:20:19 PM PST by wgmalabama (I was for Sessions before the country knew his name,)
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To: SeekAndFind

As a CA resident, my first inclination is to sign the petition in an Operation Chaos sense. Tell me if I’m wrong.


105 posted on 01/27/2017 7:31:57 PM PST by Chaguito
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To: SeekAndFind

106 posted on 01/27/2017 7:47:25 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: Zakeet

May be we should put a hold on that wall, what?


107 posted on 01/27/2017 8:07:16 PM PST by mikeIII
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To: outofsalt
...Wardlow and the forces behind the 1982 Conch Republic secession mobilized the island for a full-scale war (in the Conch Republic, this involved firing water cannons from fireboats and hitting people with stale Cuban bread), and protested to the Department of Defense for arranging this exercise without consulting the City of Key West. The leaders of the 478th issued an apology the next day, saying they “in no way meant to challenge or impugn the sovereignty of the Conch Republic”, and submitted to a surrender ceremony on September 22.” from wiki

LOL - thanks for sharing. Nice thing about Florida is nothing's so crazy it can't happen here...

108 posted on 01/27/2017 9:06:50 PM PST by GOPJ (MSNBC didn't 'get' Trump or his base and damn sure don't get 'Drain the Swamp so STFU about it.)
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To: D Rider
Can those of us NOT in California sign the petition also? That way we can make our position known.

THAT DRider is one great idea... I'll sign.

109 posted on 01/27/2017 9:08:25 PM PST by GOPJ (MSNBC didn't 'get' Trump or his base and damn sure don't get 'Drain the Swamp so STFU about it.)
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To: ClearBlueSky
Once Mexico occupies them fully we can extend the wall northward to seal them all of in their imagined utopia.

Better yet - we can tell them they can only leave IF they pay for the Wall... Two birds with one stone...

110 posted on 01/27/2017 9:11:11 PM PST by GOPJ (MSNBC didn't 'get' Trump or his base and damn sure don't get 'Drain the Swamp so STFU about it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where can I sign up for Calexit...we need to put a navy in Lake Tahoe to keep illegals from swimming to the USA....


111 posted on 01/28/2017 5:27:55 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: GOPJ

I think their end game would be to qualify for foreign aid. HA! Good luck with that. I hope they succeed, the entertainment would be TRUMPtastic! Mexifornia-the drug cartels would swarm over Beverly Hills overnite!


112 posted on 01/28/2017 7:25:52 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Before we sign the papers they’ll have to agree to accept all illegals living in the United States as citizen for their ‘new’ country.


113 posted on 01/28/2017 8:13:54 PM PST by GOPJ (MSNBC didn't 'get' Trump or his base and damn sure don't get 'Drain the Swamp so STFU about it.)
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To: Zakeet; 2ndDivisionVet; Impy

we keep San Diego area. need pacific port

next, get 5 or 6 New England states to secede to Canada and the Senate belongs to America again.


114 posted on 01/29/2017 5:09:02 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (i WANNA HEAR MORE GLOATING!)
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To: campaignPete R-CT; NFHale; fieldmarshaldj; stephenjohnbanker

I’d like to keep the good parts of the state, carve out a “West Virginia”.

I’d like to keep San Diego as well, as long as it undergoes “reconstruction”.


115 posted on 01/29/2017 10:56:05 PM PST by Impy (Toni Preckwinkle for Ambassador to the Sun)
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To: Impy

Might be able to carve out the non-moonbat parts of Orange County as well. Anything that went 55% or more for Hillary should secede. Probably give some of the border towns in Imperial County to Baja California Norte.


116 posted on 01/30/2017 4:02:47 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: correctthought
6) Counter proposal, round up all the californians that support this petition, and ship them off in barges. They’re so bright and humanitarian; should do fine.

Better yet, apply the constitutional remedy, 14th Sect 3. All the government officials supporting this just resigned and banned themselves from future office unless pardoned by 2/3 of both US House and Senate! That includes any judges that try to rule in their favor, even US Supremes. Very efficient. pres Lincoln would approve as his biggest thing, even bigger than abolition, was to preserve the Union.

117 posted on 02/09/2017 6:33:16 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
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