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The Week: President Trump is a terrible negotiator
the week ^ | 1 27 2017 | Jeva Lange

Posted on 01/27/2017 11:49:08 AM PST by MarvinStinson

Art of the Deal author and U.S. President Donald Trump is maybe not the negotiator he's chalked up to be. Despite his spokesperson once dubbing him "the best negotiator in the history of the world," Thursday's series of incidents with Mexican president Enrique Peña Nieto were evidence to the contrary, The New Yorker's Ryan Lizza writes.

Mexico is a major trading partner and ally of the U.S., but was alienated Thursday when Trump insisted Mexico would pay for the border wall, Peña Nieto insisted he wouldn't, and Trump responded by tweeting that if that was the case, then maybe the two leaders should cancel their upcoming meeting. Peña Nieto, in essence, said, "Okay, fine."

This depressing episode confirms several of the worst fears about Trump. The first is that he is not a good negotiator. Rather than waiting a week before he issued his executive orders on immigration, Trump signed them at a moment that maximally embarrassed [Secretary of Foreign Affairs Luis] Videgaray, the Mexican official who is the most sympathetic to him. The moves left the unpopular Peña Nieto with no choice but to cancel next week's visit, and poisoned the relationship with one of America's closest allies and our third-largest trading partner.

A Mexican Embassy official noted to Lizza that the diplomats at the White House were also furious at Trump for signing an executive order in his first days as president that called for the construction on the border and expanded deportation laws. "They were like, 'What the f--- are we going to negotiate?'" the official told The New Yorker. "'You've done the job. What are we going to negotiate if you've signed this? What's wrong with you?'"


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: fakenews; fakestreammedia; jakenews; jakestreammedia; mexico; trumo
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Ryan Lizza is the Washington correspondent for [the leftwing] New Yorker, and also an on-air contributor for [the leftwing] CNN. Before joining the magazine, in 2007, he was a political correspondent for [the leftwing] New Republic, from 1998 to 2007, and, before that, a correspondent for GQ and a contributing editor at [the leftwing] New York. He has also written for [the leftwing] New York Times, [the leftwing] Washington Monthly, and [the leftwing] Atlantic Monthly. Since 1998, he has covered most of the country’s major political stories, including the last four Presidential campaigns, and has written many political profiles for [the leftwing] New Yorker.
1 posted on 01/27/2017 11:49:08 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

WTF? Are they even paying attention?


2 posted on 01/27/2017 11:49:53 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: MarvinStinson

The negotiation hasn’t even started yet.


3 posted on 01/27/2017 11:50:19 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: MarvinStinson

Whatever


4 posted on 01/27/2017 11:50:48 AM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: MarvinStinson

What a tool. What would he know about negotiations or diplomacy? The discussions with Mexico just started, for Pete’s sake.


5 posted on 01/27/2017 11:50:51 AM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: MarvinStinson

What are they going to negotiate. I think Trump was clear there will be a wall. The negotiation will be in how Mexico pays for it. The “professionals” in DC think negotiating means to give up your core principles and accept the other side.


6 posted on 01/27/2017 11:51:20 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: MarvinStinson

Establishing himself as the alpha dog first.


7 posted on 01/27/2017 11:51:37 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: MarvinStinson

Like when Reagan said, “No deal is better than a bad deal!”


8 posted on 01/27/2017 11:52:16 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Imagine that)
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To: MarvinStinson

So how do you feel?

Is Trump a great negotiator or a bad one like this fake news writer is saying?


9 posted on 01/27/2017 11:53:48 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Obama's greatest legacy to America/Americans was the election of President Trump!)
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To: MarvinStinson

This dude obviously doesn’t know that it ain’t over ‘til it’s over. Good night nurse! The only thing that happened this week was Trump’s opening salvo, just to sight in his guns. And Nieto dove for cover. Trump will smoke him out, though.


10 posted on 01/27/2017 11:53:58 AM PST by Tucker39 (In giving us The Christ, God gave us the ONE thing we desperately NEEDED; a Savior.)
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To: NohSpinZone

Trump didn’t roll over like your average Republican would have at the slightest sign of resistance and that’s making liberal heads explode.

We can’t spare this man. He fights.


11 posted on 01/27/2017 11:54:26 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: MarvinStinson

It looked like a great negotiating tactic to me.

Mexico will be at the NAFTA table considerably weakened and their US corporate supporters silent.


12 posted on 01/27/2017 11:55:08 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jim Robinson

Nothing to negotiate when it comes to issuing executive orders that countermand Obama’s lawlessness and revert back to the law as written.


13 posted on 01/27/2017 11:55:10 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: for-q-clinton

Exactly right! Negotiation is NOT a synonym for surrender!


14 posted on 01/27/2017 11:55:19 AM PST by beelzepug (Anybody I attack may rest assured it's personal!)
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To: MarvinStinson

Apparently this ‘producer of propaganda’ hasn’t gotten out of the parents basement for a while...

Has anyone living to today seen a President in one week do the things that President Trump has done?

The sane answer to this is NO!!!

And just so they get a taste of what has happened since the day he was President Elect though yesterday, they want to see the TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH:

November 17th
Ford Plant to stay in Kentucky instead of moving to Mexico Link
•4,800 jobs

November 29th
Carrier Plant to stay in Indiana instead of moving to Mexico Link
•1,000 jobs
•$16 million Investment

December 6th
SoftBank of Japan to invest $50 billion in the United States Link
•50,000 jobs
•$50 billion Investment

December 7th
U.S. Steel to reinvest in the U.S. and rehire laid off workers Link
•10,000 jobs
•$10 billion Investment

TransLux to move full manufacturing from China back to U.S. Link
•Job and investment totals not available

Foxconn to expand production into the U.S. Link
•50,000 jobs
•$7 billion Investment

December 9th
DOW to create state of the art innovation center in Michigan Link
•Design products/systems for U.S. production = 1,000’s of jobs
•Investment total not available

Trump Ford Teaser: “Ford’s made a promise to me, and hopefully at the beginning of the year, they are going to honor that promise about something they are going to do that’s very big. They are going to do it in Michigan, not in Mexico. It’s gonna be great.” Trump said Friday night at a rally in Grand Rapids, Mich. (see January 3rd below)

December 13th

IBM to hire 25,000 U.S. workers and open 20 tech vocational schools Link
•25,000 jobs
•$1 billion Investment
•Open 20 tech vocational schools

December 27th
Tesla, Panasonic to make solar cells in Buffalo, New York Link
•1,500+ jobs
•$5 billion Investment

December 28th
Sprint to bring 5,000 jobs back to the U.S.- OneWeb to create 3,000 jobs Link
•8,000 jobs
•Investment totals not available

January 3rd
Ford Cancels $1.6 billion Mexico Plant. Will Expand in Michigan Link
•700 Jobs
•$700 million Investment

January 5th
Stanley Black and Decker to Open $35 million plant in US Link
•Jobs number not yet available
•$35 million Investment

January 8th
Fiat Chrysler to Invest $1 billion in Michigan and Ohio Link
•2,000 Jobs
•$1 billion investment

January 9th
Toyota to invest $10 billion in the U.S. over 5 years Link
•Jobs number not yet available
•$10 billion investment

January 12th
Amazon to create 100,000 jobs over next 18 months Link
•100,000 Jobs
•Investment total not available

January 13th
Lockheed to reduce F35 cost and add 1,800 jobs in Texas Link
•1,800 Jobs
•Investment total not available

January 16th
GM to invest $1 billion in the U.S. and create/retain 1,000 jobs Link
•1,000 Jobs
•$1 billion investment

January 17th
Hyundai-Kia to invest $3.1 billion in the U.S. over 5 years Link
•Jobs number not available
•$3.1 billion investment

Walmart to invest $6.8 billion and create 34,000 jobs Link
•34,000 Jobs
•$6.8 billion investment

Bayer to invest $8 billion in the U.S. after meeting with Trump Link
•3,000 Jobs
•$8 billion investment

January 23rd
Kroger plans 2017 expansion adding 10,000 jobs Link
•10,000 Jobs
•Investment total not available

January 24th
Toyota to add 400 jobs to Indiana plant. Link

•400 Jobs
•$600 million investment is part of January 9th commit

RUNNING TOTALS:

22 Companies

304,200+ Jobs

$103,751,000,000 Investments

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/2/executive-order-minimizing-economic-burden-patient-protection-and

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/20/memorandum-heads-executive-departments-and-agencies

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/23/presidential-memorandum-regarding-mexico-city-policy

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/23/presidential-memorandum-regarding-withdrawal-united-states-trans-pacific

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/23/presidential-memorandum-regarding-hiring-freeze

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/24/presidential-memorandum-regarding-construction-american-pipelines

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/24/executive-order-expediting-environmental-reviews-and-approvals-high

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/24/presidential-memorandum-regarding-construction-keystone-xl-pipeline

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/24/presidential-memorandum-regarding-construction-dakota-access-pipeline

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/24/presidential-memorandum-streamlining-permitting-and-reducing-regulatory

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/25/presidential-executive-order-enhancing-public-safety-interior-united

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/25/executive-order-border-security-and-immigration-enforcement-improvements

http://businessfacilities.com/2017/01/sonoco-creating-595-jobs-in-georgia/

Now ‘producers of propaganda’ lets see what lies your can make of these TRUTHS!!!


15 posted on 01/27/2017 11:55:47 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: MarvinStinson

“Make Mexico pay for the wall” is itself a negotiation tactic. It is designed to wring further concessions from Mexico.


16 posted on 01/27/2017 11:55:54 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (STOP THE TAPE!)
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To: for-q-clinton

when you have already decided who lost before the negotiating ever began, it’s not shocking.


17 posted on 01/27/2017 11:55:59 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Make America Great Again !)
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To: Huskrrrr

Big dog....With Mexico? Yellow lab vs Chihuahua?


18 posted on 01/27/2017 11:56:29 AM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I would see your Grant reference and raise with a request to send to the GOP leadership whatever Trump is drinking. But Trump doesn’t drink, so alas, that one won’t work.


19 posted on 01/27/2017 11:56:37 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Grampa Dave

Billionaire real estate investor.

Yeah, he is a really bad negotiator.


20 posted on 01/27/2017 11:56:47 AM PST by joshua c (Cut the cord! Don't pay for the rope they hang you with.)
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