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This seems a best case scenario. There are still too many RINOs, looters, parasites and crony-capitalists running the show in Washington...
1 posted on 01/16/2017 4:11:17 PM PST by KingofZion
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Trump has already established a new political order. Much more to come.


2 posted on 01/16/2017 4:14:24 PM PST by sarasota
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Jackson created the modern Democratic Party, and the intense opposition to his policies coalesced into the Whig Party, establishing the two-party norm that prevails to this day. No wonder the great 19th-century American historian George Bancroft considered Jackson the last of the Founding Fathers.

I know this will sound strange to some, but if Trump can heal the great racial divide, return love of nation to our people, strengthen the nation in a healthy manner globally, and start making significant strides on our national debt, I'd go so far as to say that Trump may indeed be another last Founding Father.

In a number of ways, he has their lofty ideals and drive to help this nation fulfill it's destiny. He wants that for every citizen too. He plays no favorites in his desire to see our citizen's lives improved.

IMO < Pence seems destined to follow on Trump and perhaps champion the same ideals making him another Founding Father of sorts.

Without this man at this time, I believe our nation would have fallen. Trump helped us dodge a bullet.

We live on as a nation today, because he put an end to the Obama/Clinton era.

Thank you God in heaven.

3 posted on 01/16/2017 4:23:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (John McStain. The friend of those who hate our nation.)
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4 posted on 01/16/2017 4:25:18 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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The author trades in ideas— and he makes a nice argument— while ignoring numbers. A massive immigration influx helped Roosevelt. We’re dealing with a similar influx today. Pretty hard to sign on to an analysis that doesn’t take demographics into account.


5 posted on 01/16/2017 4:30:47 PM PST by ameribbean expat
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May ?

HAH !

11 posted on 01/16/2017 4:49:53 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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I hope so, the old one tried to kill off too many people that were exposing it.


12 posted on 01/16/2017 4:50:12 PM PST by Daniel Ramsey (MAGA)
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First Republic, roughly 10 years

Created by the Articles of Confederation; vitiated by a lack of a coin of the realm; destroyed by Shays’ Rebellion and its aftermath.

Second Republic, 72 years

Created by the Constitution.

Argument: Federalism, i.e., the correct balance between state and federal powers.

Founding President: Washington.
Affirming President from same party: Adams for 1 term.
Transformative President (32 years after term of Founding President ends): Jackson.
Follower President from same party: Van Buren, who loses re-election due to economic depression.
Failed President (16 years after term of Follower President ends): Buchanan, who fails because the nostrums of his republic cannot handle the current issues, i.e., slavery and disunion.

Third Republic, 72 years

Created by the Civil War.

Argument: Who will control that all-powerful federal government? An early and primitive form of corporate fascism, where the country is run by Big Business in general and Big Railroads in particular.

Founding President: Lincoln.
Affirming President from same party: Grant for 2 terms (I don’t count Hayes because the 1876 election was probably stolen).
Transformative President (32 years after term of Founding President ends): Theodore Roosevelt, who achieves office via assassination.
Follower President from same party: Taft, who loses re-election due to TR’s ego.
Failed President (16 years after term of Follower President ends): Hoover, who fails because the nostrums of his republic cannot handle the current issue, i.e., depression and the collapse of the banking system.

Fourth Republic, 84 years

Created by the New Deal.

Argument: Who will control that all-powerful federal government? In theory, the people, via alphabet agencies that are part of the Executive while Congress abdicates its right to make law. Big Government replaces Big Business, and democratic socialism replaces corporate fascism.

Founding President: Franklin Roosevelt. His election to 4 terms throws the calculations off and lengthens the time line of the republic.
Affirming President from same party: Truman for 1 term.
Transformative President (32 years after term of Founding President ends): Reagan.
Follower President from same party: the Elder Bush, who loses re-election due to a post-Cold War depression.
Interesting Note: The Younger Bush, a descendant of Franklin Pierce via his mother, takes the same slot in one of his terms as his ancestor.
Failed President (16 years after term of Follower President ends): Obama, who fails because the nostrums of his republic cannot handle the current issue, i.e., depression, deflation and the loss of jobs abroad due to globalization. Surprisingly, the Failed President wins a second term because the opposition party nominates someone who refuses to address the issues because of his own penchant for globalism.

Fifth Republic

Created by – good question. The dominant issue should become clear within the next 12 months. It’s too soon to figure out the crisis that will define the era.

Argument: We’ll watch it fall into place in the next 12 months.

Founding President: Trump.
Interesting Note: The Second (Washington) and Fourth (FDR) republics were formed in electoral landslides. The Third (Lincoln) was formed when the winner didn’t have a popular vote majority, and there were questions about popular mandate and political capital; Fort Sumter provided Lincoln with what he needed. If the Fifth (Trump) follows the pattern of the Third, some crisis, perhaps an internal rebellion, will provide Trump with the political capital to sweep everything before him.

14 posted on 01/16/2017 4:52:11 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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Fixing headline:

Trump May WILL Herald a New Political Order

20 posted on 01/16/2017 5:14:11 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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You have to hear Newt Gingrich’s speech on this subject to the Heritage Foundation where he declares Trump the leader of a new political revolution, which will be sustainable if enough of the folks who voted for change remain active.

Newt’s a pretty good historian and political analyst.


31 posted on 01/17/2017 10:43:41 AM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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