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White Nationalists' Enthusiasm For Trump Cools
NPR ^ | January 13, 2017 | Frank Morris

Posted on 01/14/2017 4:52:14 PM PST by nickcarraway

Next week, white nationalists like Jared Taylor will celebrate a moment they've been waiting decades to see, when Donald Trump is inaugurated as the 45th president of the United States. Members of the white nationalist movement were among the first to embrace Trump's candidacy, and they celebrated after his election.

"Jan. 20 reflects a significant defeat for egalitarian orthodoxy," Taylor says.

Taylor promotes a very different orthodoxy, one in which race is central to innate abilities and national success. He is working to build a United States explicitly for white people. Trump arguably helps this by telling supporters that they're the victims of a system rigged against them.

"I see Donald Trump as a kind of steppingstone. He is a step in the right direction in terms of understanding America and history and the world in essentially racial terms," Taylor says.

But white nationalist enthusiasm for Trump has fallen off substantially. Since the election, the so-called alt-right has splintered, and the movement now looks a lot less potent than it once appeared.

Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' POLITICS Energized By Trump's Win, White Nationalists Gather To 'Change The World' To understand that, it helps to go back to the heady days just after the election.

"It's too much winning! Could someone please just stop winning, I don't want to win anymore," Richard Spencer, who coined the term alt-right, told a room full of fellow radicals in November. Spencer said that Trump's victory had just slingshot white nationalism into the mainstream.

"And even if we're not quite in power yet we should act like it," he said.

Richard Spencer, who coined the term alt-right, said that Trump's victory had just slingshot white nationalism into the mainstream. Ariel Zambelich/NPR But later that day, Spencer gave another speech, a fiery one that ended with some of the audience casting off any pretense of being mainstream.

"Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail victory!" Spencer shouted, raising his glass in a straight-arm toast to the audience.

Some in the crowd responded with enthusiastic Nazi salutes, which captured media attention.

Ex-Breitbart Executive Brings Alt-Right Ties To The White House ANALYSIS Ex-Breitbart Executive Brings Alt-Right Ties To The White House "Right after the election, I think it was euphoria," says Kevin MacDonald, a retired evolutionary psychology professor at California State, Long Beach and another white nationalist mainstay. "But as we get into it now, there's more trepidation."

MacDonald says Trump's appointments also have rattled the movement, especially his propensity for tapping rich Wall Street bankers.

"These are globalists in general. They love free trade, they love immigration — big red flags for us," he says.

And MacDonald says he is concerned about the reliance on generals and hawkish policy leading America into another Middle East war.

"Lot of trepidation, but the big silver lining is Jeff Sessions," he says.

MacDonald hopes Sessions, Trump's nominee for attorney general, will clamp down on immigration. White nationalists also like the nominee for secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, who is seen as being close to Russian leader Vladimir Putin, a darling of the alt-right.

"Right after the election, I think it was euphoria," says Kevin MacDonald, a retired evolutionary psychology professor, about the rise of the white nationalists. "But as we get into it now, there's more trepidation." Ariel Zambelich/NPR But despite its high hopes for the Trump administration, the radical right has largely gone to war with itself. Mark Potok, with the Southern Poverty Law Center, says much of what was once called the alt-right has peeled away.

"I mean look, we are talking about a movement which spends literally more time attacking one another than they do attacking their enemies," Potok says.

No one has taken more fire from his ideological kinsmen than Spencer. Like-minded radicals have disavowed the alt-right, even called Spencer an operative bent on the movement's destruction. In the media, he is always tied to those Nazi salutes.

"I think it's good to be the person talked about, even when it's negative," Spencer tells NPR. "Our ideas are entering the discourse."

But Marilyn Mayo with the Anti-Defamation League argues that the alt-right is watching its illusion of real world influence whither.

"At some point, they may have felt that they could influence policy in some way, but I think that was really a pipe dream for them because they really are a fringe movement, and they're still a fringe movement," Mayo says.

A movement that sprang from obscurity with Trump's election seems to be dropping back into the shadows even before Trump takes power.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: nickcarraway

The MSM gave Obama a ‘honeymoon’ of six years, blaming everything bad on Bush.

We will have to measure the MSN ‘honeymoon’ for Trump in minus years, instead of positive days.


21 posted on 01/14/2017 5:32:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (John McStain. The friend of those who hate our nation.)
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To: nickcarraway

MMMHUUUM...and Obama is pro-American.


22 posted on 01/14/2017 5:33:58 PM PST by tillacum (I've been a Great Deplorable, from the beginning of DJT's entrance into politics.)
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To: nickcarraway

FR Trump hit piece #14,215.


23 posted on 01/14/2017 5:36:25 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: nickcarraway

If the roaches at Pubic Radio said its true, why then it must be true.


24 posted on 01/14/2017 5:41:40 PM PST by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: nickcarraway

Get a brain morans ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfF8JomDapE&index=8&list=RD4dqWeeyumOs


25 posted on 01/14/2017 5:44:20 PM PST by soycd
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To: nickcarraway

I’ll tell you about some of the “white nationalists” I’ve run into on the internet. They’re quick, smart, hostile, mean and have a propensity for rewriting history. Just like the damned left.

I took the bait in a discussion one evening after reading a couple of tweets from Mike Cernovich. It was a bloodbath. There was no exchange of ideas, no attempt at persuasion. They were vicious. The defense of Hitler, the vitriol towards jews and blacks shook me pretty badly. These are not people I want on my team.

Admittedly, a small sampling, but their ideas are vile.


26 posted on 01/14/2017 5:44:53 PM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: nickcarraway

NPR - #fakenews all of the time. Kiss it commies!


27 posted on 01/14/2017 5:50:41 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As long as tyranny exists, the Constitution and Bill of Right will never be "outdated" or "obsolete")
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To: nickcarraway

Defund NPR. Nazi Propaganda Radio. It’s garbage.


28 posted on 01/14/2017 5:52:42 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As long as tyranny exists, the Constitution and Bill of Right will never be "outdated" or "obsolete")
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To: nickcarraway

This headline and story would make Goebbels blush... Mostly because it’s such obvious disinformation, ineffective to all but the utterly brainwashed. Oh yeah - NPR’s core demo!


29 posted on 01/14/2017 5:53:34 PM PST by golux
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Trump couldn’t control who supported him. I knew in time the Neo-Nazis would discover that Trump wasn’t their man.


30 posted on 01/14/2017 5:53:57 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

OUR TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR THIS C**P


31 posted on 01/14/2017 5:55:36 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: Da Coyote

Thousands of very wealthy clowns, from janitors to engineers to rows upon rows of exquisitely paid producers, senior producers and executive producers, all over the country, costing us billions, telling us in story after story to give them more, then breaking for a fund-raiser.


32 posted on 01/14/2017 5:56:24 PM PST by golux
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To: dfwgator

You got that right. The Communist Party U.S.A. supported Clintoonie. I don’t hear the buttercups complaining about that.


33 posted on 01/14/2017 5:59:06 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As long as tyranny exists, the Constitution and Bill of Right will never be "outdated" or "obsolete")
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To: golux


"You may have hoodwinked everybody else in this backwater town, but you can't fool me.....I listen to Public Radio."
34 posted on 01/14/2017 6:02:44 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

If people like Spencer are not secretly anti-American leftists trying to give a bad name to conservatism, they sure do seem like they are.


35 posted on 01/14/2017 6:05:49 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith

Documented fact: Saul Alinsky told liberal activists to pretend they were kkk members who supported Nixon.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/08/obamas_nazi_straw_man_an_old_a.html


36 posted on 01/14/2017 6:09:22 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith

I’d like to know how much Spencer learned about Alinsky while he was studying in Chicago.


37 posted on 01/14/2017 6:10:04 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: DoughtyOne

“We will have to measure the MSN ‘honeymoon’ for Trump in minus years, instead of positive days.”

Fuq the honeymoon, let them wail and scream and hysterically flail their arms and jump up and down and fling poo at each other. I believe we have a president who will not only ignore it, but mock it, and will continue with his agenda. If he accomplishes 1/10th of what I think he is capable of, then the dam will break and these people will look like class 11 idiots. If not, then at the end of 4 years we will be approximately where we are now.


38 posted on 01/14/2017 6:12:11 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: nickcarraway

Do they not know that without the taxpayers and of course support from Congress and the President, they will not have jobs? CUT the funding for Public Broadcasting. The private sector already has the “fake news” covered.


39 posted on 01/14/2017 6:14:22 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: dsrtsage

I agree.

I don’t think they should be able to get away with it, without being called on it though.

They referenced any problem for six years, as Bush’s fault.

They’ve already been blaming everything imaginable on Trump.


40 posted on 01/14/2017 6:18:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (John McStain. The friend of those who hate our nation.)
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