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Even more evidence Obama birth certificate 'fake'
worldnetdaily.com ^ | 1/8/17 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/09/2017 2:36:31 PM PST by Nero Germanicus

An investigator who was commissioned by now-retired Sheriff Joe Arpaio to find out whether the document President Obama presented as his birth certificate is real says there’s now a 10th feature of the document that shows it’s fraudulent.

Investigator Mike Zullo, who joined with Arpaio in a Dec. 15 news conference disclosing nine other elements that experts concluded were copied to create Obama’s document, released a video to WND explaining the additional evidence.

It explains that two stamps on the Obama document not only were identical in angle to the stamps on another birth certificate – that of Johanna Ah’nee from the same time period – they also had the identical vertical relationship.

This despite the fact that the “stamps” purportedly were hand applied days apart.

“What are the odds that both the stamps in box 20 and the stamps in box 22 would have the exact same corresponding angles even though they were stamped 16 days apart?” the video asks.

That means they almost certainly were digitally copied from the Ah’nee certificate then dragged together and pasted onto Obama’s, the video explains.

Zullo explained that the fact the two stamps are an exact match vertically reveals that they were taken as a group.

“The fact that there is no vertical displacement indicates the exact vertical and horizontal alignment of the stamps are an exact copy from the Ah’nee certificate … reinforcing the claim that the Ah’nee [document] is without question a source document.”

It eliminates, too, he said, any chance that the date stamps were placed by hand on the Obama document.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthers; obamafamily
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To: Will J Diamond

Bol! I’m not the one who falsely and stupidly claimed Stanley Ann upheaved from HI in order to join her Seattle “support group.” That idiocy puts you in a nonpareil class for posting nonsense.


202 posted on 01/14/2017 4:01:32 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Nero Germanicus
Barry Obama was very lucky that seven years ago the Republican Governor in Hawaii confirmed his birthplace and was the first person to name Kapi’olani Hospital as the actual place of birth. That was a full year before the long form birth certificate was released.

You know what? Clapper went before the Senate and testified that they did not spy on citizens. Testimony is bestsellers supported by physical evidence of which Lindle produced none.

It may surprise you to discover the government/politicians lie all the time.

203 posted on 01/14/2017 4:20:37 PM PST by itsahoot (Five words I want to hear, I will build that wall.)
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To: itsahoot

If anyone suspects that a politician/government official is lying, its best to subpoena them and place them under oath with the threat of a perjury or contempt citation hanging over their head.
However in this case, that wasn’t even necessary, the truth or falsity of the Governor’s statement is easily discernible by issuing a court order for inspection of the original vault edition birth certificate.
The “Health Bureau Statistics” column in the Honolulu Advertiser published on August 13, 1961 which includes data on Barack Obama’s birth corroborates Governor Lingle’s statement.
On August 31, 1961 Barack Obama Senior was interviewed by Immigration and Naturalization Service officer William Wood. Mr. Wood’s notes from that interview which concerned Obama Senior’s Student Visa application state that Obama Senior has a new born son, born in Hawaii and living with his U.S. citizen wife’s parents.
Once Governor Lingle made her statement, the national Republican Party lost interest in the topic.
Indiana’s Republican Governor in 2008, Mitch Daniels also defended Obama’s eligibility to receive Indiana’s Electoral votes in a key eligibility lawsuit, Ankeny v Daniels.
And two Republican Secretaries of State, Ken Bennett in Arizona and Kris Kobach in Kansas took the additional step of getting confirmation of Obama’s birth from the state of Hawaii’s Registrar of Vital Statistics.
Both Secretaries of State then issued statements declaring Obama to be eligible:
“I have no doubts now,’ Kobach says of Obama’s birthplace”
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article1099175.html

“Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett satisfied Obama was born in United States”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/arizona-secretary-of-state-ken-bennett-satisfied-obama-was-born-in-united-states/2012/05/23/gJQAN1czkU_blog.html


204 posted on 01/14/2017 6:06:27 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Will J Diamond; Nero Germanicus

Which of you two geniuses can explain why this criminal action was taken:

‘The Arpaio report, for instance, noted that “the INS records for foreign flights arriving in Hawaii during the week of Obama’s birth were missing, not only on the microfilm reels examined, but also in the primary database itself.”’


205 posted on 01/14/2017 6:22:01 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Nero Germanicus

Oops; you need to give your hero, Barack Hussein Obama, your little lecture on how accurate the polls were. He’s under the delusion that they were misleading:

“[Obama] told Lester Holt that he thinks he and his team are pretty good at seeing things coming––but not Trump’s victory. Part of that, Obama said, is due to the fact that the polling was so off.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3514068/posts


206 posted on 01/14/2017 6:30:43 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: VitacoreVision

Yes-—but it is ONLY Truth which sets us free. We NEED the TRUTH—it is essential for Freedom and “Free Will”.

As long as Lies are all that the masses get and “know”, their perceptions are going to be WARPED and that is the AIM of the Marxists.

We will never, ever be able to understand the CIA deceptions until we KNOW who is in power and running the puppet, obama—who funded him and set him up at Harvard, killed all his homosexual “lovers”, and created his “resume” which placed him in the Senate with doing illegal (CIA) destruction of opponents.

I know the truth that Obama was and is a complete fraud. He should be put in prison in a true Just system.

His parents and grandparents were Marxists who warped little Barry from birth to create an immoral, irrational ideologue to destroy the USA and flip 2000 years of Ethics to their satanism (Marxism). They actually DID IT-—Made our “Justice” System into a complete Satan System which promotes only Vice, theft, and irrational, evil behaviors that are antithetical to Freedom and Natural Law (Our Constitution)

Obama—completely eliminated our Justice System for a Marxist Satan System of “Just” (hahahahah) “Law”.


207 posted on 01/14/2017 6:35:55 PM PST by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: 353FMG

No. They are not embarrassed. They are complicit. They helped and facilitated the fraud and complete takeover of America.

They are criminals and most should be in prison, if we had a “true” Justice system (which we do not since 1913 when our Constitution was literally thrown out by the Rothschild’s puppet, Pres. Wilson, who literally was controlled (bribed) so our entire country is run by the Banksters/CFR, Club of Rome/Freemasons.


208 posted on 01/14/2017 6:42:42 PM PST by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: Fantasywriter

I sure can’t explain missing flight records from 56 years ago. How about seeing if there are passenger manifests from airlines that flew to Kenya in 1961?

Obama sure is lucky that there was Health Bureau Statistics data published in the Honolulu newspaper on August 13, 1961, just 5 days after his birth was registered with the state of Hawaii, or else he’d have been in big trouble.

I could have sworn that the individual posting above was just claiming that Stanley Ann Dunham was in Seattle when her son was born. Now the conspiracy theory is that an 18 year old girl is supposedly in Kenya all by herself to give birth because we know from Visa records that aren’t missing that Barack Obama Senior never left the U.S. during 1961.


209 posted on 01/14/2017 7:48:43 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

‘Now the conspiracy theory is that an 18 year old girl is supposedly in Kenya all by herself to give birth’

So THAT’S your theory. At long last you reveal it.

I don’t agree with you at all, but if that’s your take, so be it. Just remember, you made it up yourself, as you certainly didn’t get it from anything I posted.


210 posted on 01/14/2017 8:08:27 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Here’s where I got that conspiracy theory from:
“Which of you two geniuses can explain why this criminal action was taken:

‘The Arpaio report, for instance, noted that “the INS records for foreign flights arriving in Hawaii during the week of Obama’s birth were missing, not only on the microfilm reels examined, but also in the primary database itself.”’

And again, the airlines have passenger manifests.

Oh, and there’s really no need to refer to me as a “genius.”


211 posted on 01/14/2017 9:14:32 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

Once again it seems possible, if not likely, that NG has switched over to party-mode. Otherwise how to explain a wild Kenyan theory when nothing in the post alluded to mentions Kenya?

Every chance, 
Every chance that I take
I take it on the road
Those kilometers and the red lights
I was always looking left and right
Oh, but I’m always crashing 
In the same car


212 posted on 01/14/2017 9:35:47 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Nero Germanicus
“I have no doubts now,’ Kobach says of Obama’s birthplace”

No chance he got an offer he could not refuse of course. If you are not paid to post this propaganda what are you doing here, no one with a brain believes one word you post?

213 posted on 01/15/2017 8:12:39 AM PST by itsahoot (Five words I want to hear, I will build that wall.)
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To: itsahoot

Its disappointing that people like Itsahoot impugn the reputations of solid conservatives like Kris Kobach, Secretary of State of Kansas and accuse them of taking bribes without the slightest hint of evidence.
Mr. Kobach is a leader in the anti-illegal immigration movement and he wrote Arizona’s anti-illegal immigration law, the strictest in the nation.
Kobach was a member of the Platform Committee of the 2016 Republican National Convention. He was rumored to be on the short list of possible Attorney General nominees in President-elect Donald Trump’s administration. Trump ultimately chose Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions.
With regard to Obama’s birth certificate, Mr. Kobach is one of three members of the Kansas Objections Board which rules on who is eligible to be on the ballot in Kansas. The Objections Board is composed of the Attorney General, the Lieutenant Governor and the Secretary of State. They ruled unanimously the Obama was eligible and all three members are elected Republicans.
“Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, period. Hillary Clinton started the birther movement, I ended it.”—Donald J. Trump, 9/15/16
I suppose Mr. Trump was also “made an offer he couldn’t refuse?” After all, we all know how hard up he is for money!

No one with half a brain believes Itsahoot’s ignorant ravings. People like you give real, intelligent conservatives a bad name.

Interviewer: “Do you question his (Obama’s) faith and his citizenship?”
Governor Sarah Palin: “I don’t and those are distractions. What we’re concerned about is the economy. And we’re concerned about the policies coming out of his administration and what he believes in terms of big government or private sector. So, no, the faith, the birth certificate, others can engage in that kind of conversation. It’s distracting. It gets annoying and let’s just stick with what really matters.”
http://youtu.be/HMKwo_Cz8mw

I stand with President-Elect Trump and Sarah Palin.


214 posted on 01/15/2017 10:50:27 AM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Fantasywriter

“Barack Obama was born in the United States, period. Hillary Clinton started the birther movement, I finished it.”—Donald J. Trump, September 15, 2016
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/16/donald-trump-obama-born-united-states-period/


215 posted on 01/15/2017 11:04:55 AM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
I stand with President-Elect Trump and Sarah Palin.

B$

The document placed online by this administration is a poor counterfeit and no discussion goes forward without an explanation of why they would be so stupid as to do that.

People were absolutely whipped into line by the Birther press and people like you. Imagine if you will a politician that would support a lie to protect their political future, not really all that hard is it. I did not have sexual relations with that woman; You can keep you plan; The average family will save $2,500 a year; I am opposed to gay marriage........

Striking at the king and failing is not wise and few have ever survived it.

216 posted on 01/15/2017 12:36:53 PM PST by itsahoot (Five words I want to hear, I will build that wall.)
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To: Nero Germanicus

It would be a good law. Allow all 50 Secretaries of State to question eligibility documents for all candidates running in their state (up to and including president). That ensures that no powers can slip one between the cracks again.


217 posted on 01/15/2017 12:42:39 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Nero Germanicus

The best way to wake up the lib schmucks in this country to the unimaginable fraud that was alternately perpetrated upon them or with consent of them is to write an article like this, say that the document is Donald Trump’s (but can’t think of what would work, unless he had some excuse from military service or ?). Watch the heads explode. Then tell them it was Obama’s.


218 posted on 01/15/2017 12:46:06 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Blue Highway

Couldn’t he then be prosecuted for committing one of the highest forms of fraud and treason?


This is where we see if we are a nation that is fair, a nation of laws. One day this will be discovered. He is hoping he will have time to jet to Dubai first. But will this nation do ANYTHING or will he be pitied because some of his blood is from Africa or, hey, you already emptied that bank safe, why don’t you just keep all the money??? Do we have the cojones to lock the guy up, or not????


219 posted on 01/15/2017 12:52:55 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Hotlanta Mike

How about a class action lawsuit against him him for defrauding the American electorate?


While every registered voter in 2008 has standing, he will collect a Dream Team of attorneys and it will depend on the jury.


220 posted on 01/15/2017 1:00:41 PM PST by Yaelle
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