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Report: Trump Advisor Monica Crowley Plagiarized Parts of Her 2012 Bestseller
NY Magazine ^ | 1/7/2016 | Chas Danner

Posted on 01/07/2017 4:24:26 PM PST by usafa92

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To: riverdawg

Teddy Kennedy ( spit ), had other kids take tests for him and got kicked out of college for more of the same, but his father paid the college off and made them reinstate him.


61 posted on 01/07/2017 5:10:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ColdOne

SPOT ON!


62 posted on 01/07/2017 5:11:27 PM PST by nopardons
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To: JonPreston

That’s from my favorite Stooges movie. :-)


63 posted on 01/07/2017 5:14:50 PM PST by nopardons
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To: usafa92

64 posted on 01/07/2017 5:15:53 PM PST by stratboy
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To: ColdOne

What did he plagiarize? This is the first I’m hearing of it.

Zakaria got the whole election wrong. He said, “Donald Trump will lose and will destroy the Republican Party.” I can’t recall the exact quote, but that’s essentially what he said if not word for word.


65 posted on 01/07/2017 5:19:49 PM PST by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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To: usafa92

I just wonder what possessed CNN to look to see if her book was plagiarized. That took a lot of work to check all these passages.


66 posted on 01/07/2017 5:29:43 PM PST by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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To: Yaelle

I agree. Conservatives, the right, or whatever you want to call us, are held to a higher standard and in a sense that’s not fair. The press goes out of their way to cover up for leftists, but even a small infraction on the right is put in the spotlight.

But we actually have higher standards ourselves, and she needs to live up to these. It sounds like there’s a lot of non-original and non-cited material in the book. It may have been careless and unintentional, but I think she still needs to apologize and withdraw it.


67 posted on 01/07/2017 5:31:51 PM PST by livius
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To: usafa92

We’ll talk about that after you MSM clowns talk to Dorkbama the Muslim eunuch about his “book”.

May want to check with Ayers, the “eddikation docktor”.


68 posted on 01/07/2017 5:36:35 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: usafa92

We’ll talk about that after you MSM clowns talk to Dorkbama the Muslim eunuch about his “book”.

May want to check with Ayers, the “eddikation docktor”.


69 posted on 01/07/2017 5:37:05 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: usafa92

It begins. Everybody associated with Trump is going to be given an anal exam by the media, but no democrat will.


70 posted on 01/07/2017 5:38:28 PM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: bigbob

I didn’t read it. Are they saying she didn’t attribute it?


71 posted on 01/07/2017 5:43:05 PM PST by tiki
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To: usafa92

Non-story. So did all the libs. Nobody cared then, so they don’t get to care now.


72 posted on 01/07/2017 5:44:28 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Yaelle
Crowley should apologize sincerely and recall her book ... She failed to be honest

I am going to take issue with this view on two levels. First, Crowley's work is not plagiarism because her work is original and transformative - she discussed the ideas of others to weave them into a synthesis and prescription for future action that is original with her.

Second, far too much is made of plagiarism. The exact crime of plagiarism is stealing someone else's work, taking someone else's original ideas . And so for it to be plagiarism she must be passing off as her ideas, ideas that were actually original with the person accusing her of plagiarism.

Generally known and reported facts are not original ideas. For instance she was accused of plagiarizing something from someone who recorded what Reuters reported. But, the original plagiarist does not own the report, Reuters does, and Crowley wrote that Reuters reported it. And she was accused of plagiarism for reporting something about Keynesian economics. Now, it would be theft if she reported ideas thought up by Keynes as her ideas, but she didn't. She stated they were Keynes's ideas. Someone does not gain title to those ideas, by being the first thief. The are Keynes's ideas, not Investopedia's.

The real issue is not plagiarism, but principles of good scholarship, which requires citing sources of ideas and information principally to provide evidence of accuracy. Avoidance of plagiarism is a lower standard. It merely requires not passing off as your ideas, ideas that belong to someone else. Now, generally I am a strong advocate of good scholarship to assure the provenance of facts and ideas. And there the issue is to ensure that the facts and ideas are not original with Crowley, not #fakenews, but in fact things that actually transpired or were actually said or recorded.

So, it is a valid criticism to state that for you, or for me, the value of the work would have been augmented by careful footnoting (if it wasn't all properly footnoted, something I don't know for a fact.)

73 posted on 01/07/2017 5:46:57 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: usafa92

Josh Ernest plagiarizes Goebbels daily.


74 posted on 01/07/2017 5:47:24 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: usafa92

Dept of InJustice:
The Nature of The Evidence Doesn’t Matter;
It’s The Seriousness of The Charge.


75 posted on 01/07/2017 5:50:45 PM PST by Carriage Hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: AndyJackson

Did she have a reference to Klein in the bibliography? She should have, for that. That is pretty darn near a copy for multiple, consecutive sentences.

There is no reason to copy like that and not quote.


76 posted on 01/07/2017 5:53:29 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: nopardons

Yes, Ted had others take a Spanish exam for him at Harvard. I am ashamed that my alma mater subsequently admitted him to its law school.


77 posted on 01/07/2017 6:02:37 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: nopardons; bankwalker

I’ve been laughing at that Stooge skit for more than 50 years :)


78 posted on 01/07/2017 6:03:18 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: usafa92

Why didn’t they blast her then?


79 posted on 01/07/2017 6:05:37 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: riverdawg

He also plagiarized a speech by British lefty Neal Kinnock when running for President.


80 posted on 01/07/2017 6:05:56 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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