Posted on 01/04/2017 3:59:19 PM PST by Olog-hai
For five straight years, a study by United Van Lines says that New Jersey is the state most abandoned in all of the country, meaning the biggest percentage of out-of-state moves that it does are from New Jersey — 63 percent to be specific.
We’ve spoken to so many listeners who have moved out of Jersey over the years that it was difficult to even begin a list of reasons, but here are some things we came up with, just to name a few:
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Good points.
Good points.
new jersey is an agglomeration of small cities averaging around 50,000 people. Each one duplicates police fire and emergency services..etc.etc.etc. biggly costly and inefficient
Transfer to NJ ?
I’d rather quit.
Been seeing ads for the Dem running for governor. The usual schtick: millionaires pay their fair share (meaning everyone); corporations pay their fair share (demonize corporations); more regulations; and of course ending gun crime through radical gun control (buh-bye 2nd Amendment).
I live where Trump has his country club. Local government is frugal and our property taxes are low, for now. I say for now because as more and more corporations move out of the state it leaves local municipalities without their largest tax payors. Of course, that leaves the local townships, no matter how frugally run, to raise revenue by increasing property taxes.
With a new dem gov most certainly on the way it’s: tick, tick, tick on more businesses moving. It’s tick, tick on one of those businesses being in my township.
Added to all of this you have crazy court mandated crap, i.e. affordable housing and Abbot. Abbot is a decision that takes a great portion of my property taxes and gifts it to five identified underprivileged school districts. All that money and not one once of improvement In those districts, just kickbacks and corrupt spending. All the while districts that are run well suffer and/or force the local to raise property taxes through the roof.
Affordable housing says that a certain amount of people get to live in your town and not pay a share of those taxes mandated on your town. Want a real fun time, go through one of the affordable housing developments and count the Mercedes and BMW’s. And we as a township can’t reassess the taxes on those units.
Normally bitchinf about this stuff is just the normal “NJ sucks” exercise to me. But it is hitting me and the family directly. I grew up in the Northeast and love the four seasons, the shore, the Adirondaks and everything else. The family is comfortable here.
BUT for all the reasons given above it is hard to make it here unless you are a Wall Street tycoon. I have two job choices in front of me. One is to head to SC. Hate the pain of moving the family I just don’t see how any other choice makes sense. Staying in NJ means that I will be lucky to hit my retirement goals.
so therefore if housing prices are going up you must be totally full of it.
Having stayed with friends in Gwinnett County (now living in Cherokee County), I would concur that it has mostly been ruined by Fulton and DeKalb County ghetto trash. My friend now calls it “DeKalb County East”.
Not me — the article that says people are fleeing the state!
Same in Memphis, Dems run it. Double property taxes, 1 city 1 county, you get crap for service when Memphis annexes your area. Can’t even get you trash picked up, roads go un-repaird, crime is high. What was once safe neighborhoods are now HOODS.
Step Daughter just missed annexation because Memphis didn’t want the cost of building a bridge, crime has invaded her area big time. She now has to have all packages delivered to a service. She is a small IT business owner who works out of her home. They were so audacious as to open the FedX boxes, and then the boxes inside, and steal the Servers and Routers for one of her customers. Many of the items she has delivered have to be pre prepped before they can be installed.
Jerseyans accepted the high taxes as long as there was no shortage of high-paying jobs; now many of the jobs are gone but the high taxes remain. Some (including areas like Ridgewood) see the high taxes as protection against “ghettoization”, while others flee the state because they realize that instead of getting services for their high taxes their just funding the teachers’ unions (and therefore the Democratic Party).
We are still importing masses of foreigners to keep those teachers collecting paychecks; the inability to pay anything towards their own upkeep means nothing to our government here. As in other “sanctuaries”, the foreigners are being trafficked here to prevent ghost towns.
My town recently built a large multi-story building for the Board of Ed; if that isn’t a warning to taxpayers I don’t know how to spell out more clearly that they are being farmed to fund the teachers’ unions.
“As in other “sanctuaries”, the foreigners are being trafficked here to prevent ghost towns.”
MY buddy said the same thing. To prevent ghost towns and the resulting ghettoization, Ridgewood seems to by trying high taxes t keep out the riffraff and attract higher incomes. Seems to be working. The local hospital is said to be tripling in size and many doctors are moving in.
Saw this coming a long time ago, and sold my home in NJ at the height of the real estate market in early 2006. I had lived in NJ for 52 years.
It is a beautiful state, rich in history, beautiful seashore, lakes,abundant in farms, horses,wonderful rural areas.
It hurt to leave, but we could never retire there. We go back only to visit my two sons and daughters-in-love and my two grandsons.
They are all working to get out someday.
Moved to southern DE in 2006. Low property taxes, no sales taxes, nice people who wave at you with all five fingers,mostly polite drivers, farms, waterfront areas, and people who love guns and hunting. Very Southern culture here and conservative.
Now the secret is out, and folks are retiring here from all over.
There’s room for more.
Cherokee County is well on the way to becoming the next Cobb & Gwinnett unfortunately, but I agree with your post.
East Dekalb is Rockdale County. Your friend should probably call it North Dekalb.
LOL!
This map is so very true!
I grew up in NE NJ—the area shown as friendly white families—which it what it was.
The CalPERS cow has mastitis.
Texas is trying to get a handle on its pension problems before it turns into a California situation. For years, the legislatures did pension planning with an assumed 8% return on investment. There's no safe investment that can guarantee that kind of return, but it allowed legislatures to balance the budget by putting less into pension funds. When facing a budget shortfall, legislatures would often up the projected rate of return on pensions until they could balance the budget. GM did the same thing, promising great pensions, but not securing the money when the debt was incurred.
Quote: “Jerseyans accepted the high taxes as long as there was no shortage of high-paying jobs; now many of the jobs are gone but the high taxes remain.”
Therein lies the tragedy of New Jersey. Once upon a time it was the lower tax alternative to New York. Businesses who wanted to be close to NYC but not pay the taxes would move here. Drive up and down 287 and it was AT&T land. Pharma and med device companies were founding here left and right.
It is all but GONE!! Democrat politicians got and still get too much emotional capital from demonizing those “evil” corporations as being the root of all of New Jersey’s problems. Small wonder that they all left. Hell, John effin Corzine had the nerve to demonize Wall Street and decried it is a Republican enrichment program. All the while having made his money there and returning there to defraud investors upon leaving office. AND NEW JERSEY VOTERS FELL FOR IT!!! It was like watching the devil decry hell and the people proclaiming him the savior for his genius.
Walking Dead!?! The average NJ liberal could be in that show as a zombie. They would only need just a touch of makeup. But even if the working class came to their senses, Newark, Camden and Union County drown out the rest of the state.
That’s a perfect example; many towns in NJ had big employers that left, and there is simply no demand for housing when jobs are further and further away (or non-existent).
Another tactic used in towns less wealthy than Ridgewood is simply banning overnight street parking; the three trafficked families that rent a single-family home from an absentee landlord can’t deal with that.
Politicians on both sides realized too late that they had chased out many companies; at this point operating a business or living here is just owning a piece of a huge IOU. Why would a company set up shop in my town, to just be taxed to death to provide schooling for imported Hispanics and a cushy retirement for American municipal employees who retired decades ago?
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