Posted on 12/29/2016 11:45:45 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
The Obama administration struck back at Russia... for its efforts to influence the 2016 election, ejecting 35 Russian intelligence operatives from the United States and imposing sanctions on Russias two leading intelligence services, including four top officers of the military intelligence unit the White House believes ordered the attacks on the Democratic National Committee and other political organizations.
In a sweeping set of announcements, the United States was also expected to release evidence linking the cyberattacks to computer systems used by Russian intelligence. Taken together, the actions would amount to the strongest American response ever taken to a state-sponsored cyberattack aimed at the United States.
The sanctions were also intended to box in President-elect Trump. Mr. Trump has consistently cast doubt that the Russian government had anything to do with the hacking of the D.N.C. or other political institutions, saying American intelligence agencies could not be trusted and suggesting that the hacking could have been the work of a 400-pound guy lying in his bed.
Mr. Trump will now have to decide whether to lift the sanctions on the Russian intelligence agencies when he takes office next month, with Republicans in Congress among those calling for a public investigation into Russias actions. Should Mr. Trump do so, it would require him to effectively reject the findings of his intelligence agencies.
Asked... at his Mar-a-Lago estate ... about reports of the impending sanctions, Mr. Trump said: I think we ought to get on with our lives. I think that computers have complicated lives very greatly. The whole age of computer has made it where nobody knows exactly what is going on. We have speed, we have a lot of other things, but Im not sure we have the kind, the security we need.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
[[show me the evidence of massive voter fraud.]]
you ARE moving the goalpost lol- i never said ‘Massive’ EVER- We do have proof of voter fraud- we do have proof of dead people voting, of disney characters voting- of busing in immigrants to vote etc- we have zero proof that a hacked DNC computer resulted in russia moving the election needle one way or the other- all we have is an accusation with no proof-
[[I personally find any tampering with the election results by any means be they foreign or domestic to be completely unacceptable]]
Again- show the evidence and sure, then investigate- the CIA won’t even give the GOP their supposed evidence- donald has asked for the evidence- they are not providing it- shall we just take their word for it? They can claim anything they like- and not have to provide evidence? This sets a very bad precedent which you know full well the msm will exploit to the fullest to try to deligitimize trump’s presidency or any future republican president-
“Against the backdrop of a sanctions announcement, President Obamas administration has released a Joint Analysis Report claiming to outline the details of Russias involvement hacking into targeted political data base or computer systems during the election. Except it doesnt. Not even a little.
The Russian Malicious Cyber Activity Joint Analysis Report (full pdf below) is pure nonsense. It outlines nothing more than vague and disingenuous typical hacking activity that is no more substantive than any other hacking report on any other foreign actor. “
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3509224/posts
Well Bob, you should have said MASSIVE because there is big fraud and it will be stopped.
Granted, there’s lots of piddly stuff and it is enough to throw a state. Bush won Florida by 537 votes. But there’s bigger systemic stuff behind the scenes and some of it was shut down this time around in a few states.
Ballot stuffing. Illegal registrations by the hundreds of thousands nation wide and opening,tampering, or discarding absentee ballots quantifies as massive fraud.
Both of you and anyone else who denies this can impact an election are sadly uninformed. I don’t know where you live, but there are key states and particular counties that have been consistently a problem.
Flagging and culling the bogus registrations from the rolls needs to be slammed down prior to the election.
Early voting is way out of hand in a few states and absentee ballots are a problem since no ID is required.
The other issues can be curtailed with monitoring-camera surveillance at Supervisor of Elections offices.
In your FR search engine enter voterfraud or election fraud in the keywords index.
The real truth about the election hacking is the trail to the DHS (GA), not the Russians.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3509176/posts
i believe it was massive fraud, but we don’t have the evidence of massive- just allegations really- we do have a bit of evidence of fraud though- and there will be more to come IF the republicans grow a spine and look into it like they should have back when stompy foot won another term-
[[Both of you and anyone else who denies this can impact an election are sadly uninformed.]]
You are getting off track here- I never said it didn’t have an impact- however, the issue that was begin discussed was not about whether there is voter fraud, We all know there is- but the issue is about whether or not the Russians are behind it-
[[The real truth about the election hacking is the trail to the DHS (GA), not the Russians.]]
That is exactly the point i was bringing up- republicans jumping on the ‘The russians hacked the election and won it for trump’ bandwagon are doing this country a great disservice because there is zero evidence that the Russians affected the election one iota- there IS however evidence that democrats have hacked the election via various means- like you mentioned, ballot stuffing, dead voters, missing ballots- etc etc etc- and that is what the nutless wonders in the GOP should be going after- NOT giving credence to the false accusations by the left that the russians won donald the election!
In the absence of voter fraud, Trump would have won the popular vote and quite likely Nevada, New Hampshire, and Virginia. I have direct knowledge of one county where the numbers are massive involving two separate schemes of SoE workers conspiring to commit and committing election fraud. It was legally stopped in its tracks. We will see what the follow up is with the new administration. Bush had plenty of election fraud ammo at his disposal and never did a thing to prosecute or prevent it from reoccurring.
A campaign to deter ballot fraud was effectively utilized in Miami. The police benevolent association launched a massive radio and billboard buy offering 10k rewards for tips leading to convictions on voter fraud. However, I doubt this impacts the illegal registrations, we will see next year.
By accusing the Russians of being responsible for democrat election losses, the 0bama administration makes himself look like a desperate fool.
There’s no such thing as “the election.”
But they don’t want to be pinned down—Did the Russians hack any COMPUTERS? or VOTING MACHINES? No. They hacked “the election.”
The polls show that only a sliver of Democrats believe it.
This has nothing to do with Russia, it’s about trying to delegitimize Trump.
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