Posted on 12/26/2016 9:13:16 AM PST by huldah1776
In a couple of gloating pieces here and there, some in conservative media have laughed at and mocked Harvard professor Larry Lessig after reports on the Electoral College vote on Monday proved that the electors did not turn faithless as Lessig wished them to. If the gloaters really want to be helpful and truly revere the Constitution’s Electoral College genius, they had better realize that this war on the Electoral College is just ramping up, and must come to the defense of the Constitution at every turn.
Lessig and his ilk are not done. In an opinion piece in the New Yorker, a columnist urges upset liberals to “Support Electoral College Reform” by organizing to urge states to enter into the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVC). The compact has been enacted into law in eleven states that constitute 165 of the 270 Electoral votes a candidate needs to win the presidency. Compact proponents claim that as soon as states that collectively represent 105 more Electoral votes enter into the Compact, it can be used in the next presidential election, effectively circumventing the Electoral College. Each state in the compact would, instead of awarding their Electoral College votes to the winner of their state popular vote, agree to award their state’s electors to the national winner of the popular vote. Proponents claim the NPVC will survive the compact clause of the constitution in Article I Section 10, which says that without the approval of Congress, states cannot enter into compacts or agreements in other states. They believe it will either be labeled in court proceedings as something other than a compact, or, that Congress might well approve the compact, citing popularity across the board that the Electoral College give way to a popular vote.
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The liberal loonies will never go away. Time for Trump to build TWO (2)walls, one against the loonies and another against illegal invaders.
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government...
According to Wikipedia:
This clause, sometimes referred to as the Guarantee Clause, has long been at the fore-front of the debate about the rights of citizens vis-à-vis the government. The Guarantee Clause mandates that all U.S. states must be grounded in republican principles such as the consent of the governed. By ensuring that all states must have the same basic republican philosophy the Guarantee Clause is one of several portions of the Constitution which mandates symmetric federalism between the states. ...The Federalist Papers also give us some insight as to the intent of the Founders. A republican form of government is distinguished from a direct democracy, which the Founding Fathers had no intentions of entering. As James Madison wrote in Federalist No. 10, "Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."
The National Popular Vote movement certainly creates an [a]symmetric federalism between the states by having half the country's states voting separately while the other half votes as a direct democracy bloc.
Even if Congress accepted the National Popular Vote compact, wouldn't it still be a violation of Article IV Section 4?
-PJ
When such a group of people that have claimed (in their minds) that they have been right about averything for so long, they cant come to understand that they have been wrong all along.
Think NAZI Germany. This DemoncRAT party is the new national socialist democrat party...only its in America now. And we all wonder why they attack Putin the way they do? It is because the NAZIs hated the communists, and Putin reresents the old communists in their minds.
The effort will come to nothing, especially if we true the vote and eliminate illegal voting.
The Supreme Court has long held the Guarantee Clause to be a political question. This means it would be a judgment call for Congress. Congress would use its judgment if this compact came before it.
You’re correct, in March of this year. So that makes 2 GOP chambers. And a committee in the MO House passed it but the full House did not vote on it, near as I can tell.
But it died in the Arizona Senate and the Missouri Senate so it wouldn’t have mattered if the House passed it, just like it died in the OK House. No Republican state enacted it, nor will they, especially now!`
I think the opposite is true, "middle America" is speaking and the Dem party, having lost 1300 seats under Obama is becoming a local party (NY and CA ... Schummer and Pelosi). More irrelevant each day. The electoral college made this happen and the people in charge now support the Constitution. The Democrat Party is just for ghettos and cities only. End of subject.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
Patriots need to support Trump in peacefully “forcing” the corrupt feds to surrender state powers that the feds have been stealing from the states back to the states. If Trump and patriots fail to do this then it’s only a matter of time before the corrupt feds are once again using stolen state powers to oppress the states and their citizens.
The minute the GOP gets a national majority, California will refuse to honor the “pact” and the libs will scream and whine and find 1,000 ways to still give CA’s EVs to the Dems. This has nothing to do with democracy and everything to do with power.
The problem you are facing is that they all don’t care.
That you may be correct simply cements their desire to get rid of the college.
You may be making things worse.
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