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Why America's Marines are Turning Their MV-22 Ospreys Into Assault Gunships
Scout Warrior ^ | Dec 22, 2015 | Kris Osborn

Posted on 12/23/2016 5:50:07 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 12/23/2016 5:50:07 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Frankly, I’d be more interested in what the actual end-user commanders have to say about it than the test organization for it or the PM of the Program.


2 posted on 12/23/2016 5:54:04 AM PST by Gaffer
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Agreed.


3 posted on 12/23/2016 5:57:11 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Long overdue. The Osprey has suffered from the fact that it was lighter armed than the Black Hawks and other platforms it replaced.


4 posted on 12/23/2016 5:59:31 AM PST by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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That thing still has no glide capacity in case of engine failure:-O


5 posted on 12/23/2016 6:03:47 AM PST by 9422WMR (President Trump, I like the sound of that!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Last I heard those things were eating up carrier decks because of exhaust temps. Did they find a solution?


6 posted on 12/23/2016 6:11:04 AM PST by Mashood
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Looks dangerous


7 posted on 12/23/2016 6:11:32 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It has the stealth of a Chinook.


8 posted on 12/23/2016 6:12:07 AM PST by Rebelbase (ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC/PBS/CNN/FOX are THE LEGACY MEDIA)
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EDIT: It has the sonic stealth of a Chinook
9 posted on 12/23/2016 6:13:27 AM PST by Rebelbase (ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC/PBS/CNN/FOX are THE LEGACY MEDIA)
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To: 9422WMR

I’d imagine they have more than choppers, which have the glide capacity of a sack of cement.


10 posted on 12/23/2016 6:13:27 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I have seen Ospreys where a crewman uses a machine gun on the lowered ramp.

Video:

MV-22B Osprey. GAU-16 Machine Gun & GAU-17 Minigun Test Fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6uIkgo7V5Q

Of course the non-PC clip from “FMJ” film is one of my favorites...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU04j2ssNAk


11 posted on 12/23/2016 6:14:29 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: 9422WMR

Transmissions are linked in event of an engine failure.


12 posted on 12/23/2016 6:15:51 AM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: KeyLargo

What worries me about these types of vehicles is that there are now thousands of former qdaffi manpads,shoulder fired weapons, floating around the mid-east in the hands of who knows whom. My question is how many would it take to shoot down one of these Ospresy by a terror type standing under a tree where he can’t be seen?


13 posted on 12/23/2016 6:21:30 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Gaffer
what the actual end-user commanders have to say about it

In the present administration, commanders have to watch what they say.

Son "Ace" and I used to watch them test the Ospreys from Quantico at our home airport at Manassas, VA. They would shoot instrument approaches and switch from airplane to rotary operation in the process. We fell in love with them!

14 posted on 12/23/2016 6:22:04 AM PST by Ace's Dad ("America is Great because America is Good " Alexis de Tocqueville)
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If it moves and the Marines use it they’re going to hang guns on it.

Semper Fi

L


15 posted on 12/23/2016 6:24:35 AM PST by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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16 posted on 12/23/2016 6:25:30 AM PST by fso301
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To: Ace's Dad

All I’m saying is that you cannot depend on the Program of Record manager, or the primary OT&E agency to give a valid unbiased assessment of the weapons system, UNLESS it is rigorously compliant with the PERFORMANCE based specifications of the end-user. This is not always what happens because of rice-bowls, sustainment of infrastructure and the like.


17 posted on 12/23/2016 6:26:39 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why not put the money into more of these,makes more sense to me.It’s harldy a secret anymore. Let’s just build a huge fleet of these and than dare anyone to screw with us.
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http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/tr-3b/

The TR-3B is Code named Astra. The tactical reconnaissance TR-3B first operational flight was in the early 90s. The triangular shaped nuclear powered aerospace platform was developed under the Top Secret, Aurora Program with SDI and black budget monies. At least 3 of the billion dollar plus TR-3Bs were flying by 1994. The Aurora is the most classified aerospace development program in existence. The TR-3B is the most exotic vehicle created by the Aurora Program. It is funded and operationally tasked by the National Reconnaissance Office, the NSA, and the CIA. The TR-3B flying triangle is not fiction and was built with technology available in the mid 80s. Not every UFO spotted is one of theirs.

The TR-3B vehicles outer coating is reactive to electrical Radar stimulation and can change reflectiveness, radar absorptiveness, and color. This polymer skin, when used in conjunction with the TR-3Bs Electronic Counter Measures and, ECCM, can make the vehicle look like a small aircraft, or a flying cylinder–or even trick radar receivers into falsely detecting a variety of aircraft, no aircraft, or several aircraft at various locations. A circular, plasma filled accelerator ring called the Magnetic Field Disrupter, surrounds the rotatable crew compartment and is far ahead of any imaginable technology.

Sandia and Livermore laboratories developed the reverse engineered MFD technology. The government will go to any lengths to protect this technology. The plasma, mercury based, is pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres at a temperature of 150 degrees Kelvin and accelerated to 50,000 rpm to create a super-conductive plasma with the resulting gravity disruption. The MFD generates a magnetic vortex field, which disrupts or neutralizes the effects of gravity on mass within proximity, by 89 percent.

Do not misunderstand. This is not antigravity. Anti-gravity provides a repulsive force that can be used for propulsion. The MFD creates a disruption of the Earth’s gravitational field upon the mass within the circular accelerator. The mass of the circular accelerator and all mass within the accelerator, such as the crew capsule, avionics, MFD systems, fuels, crew environmental systems, and the nuclear reactor, are reduced by 89%. This causes the effect of making the vehicle extremely light and able to outperform and outmaneuver any craft yet constructed–except, of course, those UFOs we did not build.

The TR-3B is a high altitude, stealth, reconnaissance platform with an indefinite loiter time. Once you get it up there at speed, it doesnt take much propulsion to maintain altitude. At Groom Lake their have been whispered rumours of a new element that acts as a catalyst to the plasma. With the vehicle mass reduced by 89%, the craft can travel at Mach 9, vertically or horizontally. My sources say the performance is limited only the stresses that the human pilots can endure. Which is a lot, really, considering along with the 89% reduction in mass, the G forces are also reduced by 89%.

The TR-3Bs propulsion is provided by 3 multimode thrusters mounted at each bottom corner of the triangular platform. The TR-3 is a sub-Mach 9 vehicle until it reaches altitudes above l20,000 feet–then God knows how fast it can go! The 3 multimode rocket engines mounted under each corner of the craft use hydrogen or methane and oxygen as a propellent.

In a liquid oxygen/hydrogen rocket system, 85% of the propellent mass is oxygen. The nuclear thermal rocket engine uses a hydrogen propellent, augmented with oxygen for additional thrust. The reactor heats the liquid hydrogen and injects liquid oxygen in the supersonic nozzle, so that the hydrogen burns concurrently in the liquid oxygen afterburner. The multimode propulsion system can; operate in the atmosphere, with thrust provided by the nuclear reactor, in the upper atmosphere, with hydrogen propulsion, and in orbit, with the combined hydrogen\ oxygen propulsion.

What you have to remember is, that the 3 rocket engines only have to propel 11 percent of the mass of the Top Secret TR-3B. The engines are reportedly built by Rockwell. Many sightings of triangular UFOs are not alien vehicles but the top secret TR-3B. The NSA, NRO, CIA, and USAF have been playing a shell game with aircraft nomenclature – creating the TR-3, modified to the TR-3A, the TR-3B, and the Teir 2, 3, and 4, with suffixes like Plus or Minus added on to confuse further the fact that each of these designators is a different aircraft and not the same aerospace vehicle. A TR-3B is as different from a TR-3A as a banana is from a grape. Some of these vehicles are manned and others are unmanned.


18 posted on 12/23/2016 6:28:05 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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“My question is how many would it take to shoot down one of these Ospresy by a terror type standing under a tree where he can’t be seen?”

I know that the Chinooks are many times covered by Apache gunships on missions, but I don’t know operationaly if the Ospreys are.

Although cool looking many military aviators are not a fan of these multi-function aircraft that take a lot of skill to operate in both fixed-wing and rotor modes combined.


19 posted on 12/23/2016 6:29:44 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: phormer phrog phlyer
Transmissions are linked in event of an engine failure.

Better yet - Transmissions are linked in the event of a transmission failure, - Spoken as one that survived an in-air failure of a combining transmission failure on a ch-47 Chinook. - Answer - "Git it on the ground", result, landed in water, lol

20 posted on 12/23/2016 6:32:29 AM PST by Dustoff45 (Where there is smoke, there is someone playing with matches trying to start a fire.)
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