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N.Y. Times' Fake News That Electoral College Was Created to Protect Slavery
The New American ^ | 21 December 2016 | Steve Byas

Posted on 12/21/2016 7:47:53 AM PST by VitacoreVision

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To: cba123

Illegal voting surges. Like this?

http://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advisories/2016-news-releases-and-advisories/record-number-online-voter-registrations-california/


21 posted on 12/21/2016 8:16:01 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Robert DeLong

countries of course should have been country’s


22 posted on 12/21/2016 8:17:42 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: tanuki

And they must be planning to use extra-Constitutional methods to do so, because you will never get enough states to disenfranchise themselves by ratifying an Amendment.


23 posted on 12/21/2016 8:17:48 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Eddie01
Well said.

One of the most insidious means of warping the truth is to selectively omit a story. I've reached the conclusion that if the NYT can't get it wrong or twist something a story into a perversion of the original meaning, they don't bother printing it at all.

24 posted on 12/21/2016 8:20:00 AM PST by Pecos (What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.)
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To: VitacoreVision

They can blather on all they want but nothing is going to happen to the EC. The barriers are simply too high. Getting a constitutional amendment through Congress would be hard enough, but ratification by a majority of states? No way.


25 posted on 12/21/2016 8:20:16 AM PST by luv2ski
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To: luv2ski

They are trying to push this “compact of the states” nonsense. Get a majority of states to agree to push their EV to the winner of the popular vote regardless of who actually wins their state election.

Which will be all sorts of fun the day the Republican wins the popular but not the electoral vote.


26 posted on 12/21/2016 8:26:31 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: VitacoreVision
From the NYT:

"When slavery was the law of the land, a direct popular vote would have disadvantaged the Southern states, with their large disenfranchised populations. Counting those men and women as three-fifths of a white person, as the Constitution originally did, gave the slave states more electoral votes.”

Maybe it's too early in the morning for me to think, but how did a measure which effectively reduced the populations of the slave states give them more electoral votes?

From the author:

"The reality is that the creation of the electoral vote system was to protect states with smaller populations from domination by states with larger population."

That's how it was taught to me back in the early 60s. We were taught that without this compromise, there probably wouldn't even have been a United states.
27 posted on 12/21/2016 8:37:12 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: VitacoreVision

The destruction of this republic began with poor education that has gotten worse with each generation. I’d wager that 9 out 10 people have no idea how the “electrical” college works. And it gets even worse every generation. I’ve always believed an intelligence test is needed to determine eligibility to vote.


28 posted on 12/21/2016 8:38:05 AM PST by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist inmy lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: Pecos

Exactly. The NYT never gets around to printing these truths:

http://russp.us/racism.htm

Hat tip to Russ Paielli and his summary - he notes FreeRepublic.com on his links page...

Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery. The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress.

Why is this indisputable fact so rarely mentioned? PBS documentaries about slavery and the Civil War barely mention it, for example. One can certainly argue that the parties have changed in 150 years (more about that below), but that does not change the historical fact that it was the Democrats who supported slavery and the Republicans who opposed it. And that indisputable fact should not be airbrushed out for fear that it will tarnish the modern Democratic Party.

Had the positions of the parties been the opposite, and the Democrats had fought the Republicans to end slavery, the historical party roles would no doubt be repeated incessantly in these documentaries. Funny how that works.

Fact: During the Civil War era, the “Radical Republicans” were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights.

Yes, that was indeed a radical idea at the time!

Fact: Lincoln’s Vice President, Andrew Johnson, was a strongly pro-Union (but also pro-slavery) Democrat who had been chosen by Lincoln as a compromise running mate to attract Democrats. After Lincoln was assassinated, Johnson thwarted Republican efforts in Congress to recognize the civil rights of the freed slaves, and Southern Democrats continued to thwart any such efforts for close to a century.

Fact: The 14th Amendment, giving full citizenship to freed slaves, passed in 1868 with 94% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress. The 15th Amendment, giving freed slaves the right to vote, passed in 1870 with 100% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress.

Regardless of what has happened since then, shouldn’t we be grateful to the Republicans for these Amendments to the Constitution? And shouldn’t we remember which party stood for freedom and which party fiercely opposed it?

Fact: The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party. Its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and “ni**er-loving” (their words) Republicans who sympathized with them.

Why is this fact conveniently omitted in so many popular histories and depictions of the KKK, including PBS documentaries? Had the KKK been founded by Republicans, that fact would no doubt be repeated constantly on those shows.

Fact: In the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower’s primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.

Fact: The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.

Fact: Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never “switched” on racism. The Democrats just switched from overt racism to a subversive strategy of getting blacks as dependent as possible on government to secure their votes. At the same time, they began a cynical smear campaign to label anyone who opposes their devious strategy as greedy racists.

Following the epic civil rights struggles of the 1960s, the South began a major demographic shift from Democratic to Republican dominance. Many believe that this shift was motivated by racism. While it is certainly true that many Southern racists abandoned the Democratic Party over its new support for racial equality and integration, the notion that they would flock to the Republican Party — which was a century ahead of the Democrats on those issues — makes no sense whatsoever.

Yet virtually every liberal, when pressed on the matter, will inevitably claim that the parties “switched,” and most racist Democrats became Republicans! In their minds, this historical ju jitsu maneuver apparently transfers all the past sins of the Democrats (slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow laws, etc.) onto the Republicans and all the past virtues of the Republicans (e.g., ending slavery) onto the Democrats! That’s quite a feat!

It is true that Barry Goldwater’s opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 probably attracted some racist Democrats to the Republican Party. However, Goldwater was not a racist — at least not an overt racist like so many Southern Democrats of the time, such as George Wallace and Bull Connor. He publicly professed racial equality, and his opposition to the 1964 Act was based on principled grounds of states rights. In any case, his libertarian views were out of step with the mainstream, and he lost the 1964 Presidential election to LBJ in a landslide.

But Goldwater’s opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act provided liberals an opening to tar the Republican Party as racist, and they have tenaciously repeated that label so often over the years that it is now the conventional wisdom among liberals. But it is really nothing more than an unsubstantiated myth — a convenient political lie. If the Republican Party was any more racist than the Democratic Party even in 1964, why did a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress vote for the 1964 Civil Rights Act? The idea that Goldwater’s vote on the 1964 Civil Rights Act trumps a century of history of the Republican Party is ridiculous, to say the least.

Every political party has its racists, but the notion that Republicans are more racist than Democrats or any other party is based on nothing more than a constant drumbeat of unsubstantiated innuendo and assertions by Leftists, constantly echoed by the liberal media. It is a classic example of a Big Lie that becomes “true” simply by virtue of being repeated so many times.

A more likely explanation for the long-term shift from Democratic to Republican dominance in the South was the perception, fair or not, that the Democratic Party had rejected traditional Christian religious values and embraced radical secularism. That includes its hardline support for abortion, its rejection of prayer in public schools, its promotion of the gay agenda, and many other issues.

In the 1960s the Democratic Party changed its strategy for dealing with African Americans. Thanks to earlier Republican initiatives on civil rights, blatant racial oppression was no longer a viable political option. Whereas before that time Southern Democrats had overtly and proudly segregated and terrorized blacks, the national Democratic Party decided instead to be more subtle and get them as dependent on government as possible. As LBJ so elegantly put it (in a famous moment of candor that was recorded for posterity), “I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” At the same time, the Democrats started a persistent campaign of lies and innuendo, falsely equating any opposition to their welfare state with racism.

From a purely cynical political perspective, the Democratic strategy of black dependence has been extremely effective. LBJ knew exactly what he was doing. African Americans routinely vote well over 90 percent Democratic for fear that Republicans will cut their government benefits and welfare programs. And what is the result? Before LBJ’s Great Society welfare programs, the black illegitimacy rate was as low as 23 percent, but now it has more than tripled to 72 percent.

Most major American city governments have been run by liberal Democrats for decades, and most of those cities have large black sections that are essentially dysfunctional anarchies. Cities like Detroit are overrun by gangs and drug dealers, with burned out homes on every block in some areas. The land values are so low due to crime, blight, and lack of economic opportunity that condemned homes are not even worth rebuilding. Who wants to build a home in an urban war zone? Yet they keep electing liberal Democrats — and blaming “racist” Republicans for their problems!

Washington DC is another city that has been dominated by liberal Democrats for decades. It spends more per capita on students than almost any other city in the world, yet it has some of the worst academic achievement anywhere and is a drug-infested hellhole. Barack Obama would not dream of sending his own precious daughters to the DC public schools, of course — but he assures us that those schools are good enough for everyone else. In fact, Obama was instrumental in killing a popular and effective school voucher program in DC, effectively killing hopes for many poor black families trapped in those dysfunctional public schools. His allegiance to the teachers unions apparently trumps his concern for poor black families.

A strong argument could also be made that Democratic support for perpetual affirmative action is racist. It is, after all, the antithesis of Martin Luther King’s dream of a color-blind society. Not only is it “reverse racism,” but it is based on the premise that African Americans are incapable of competing in the free market on a level playing field. In other words, it is based on the notion of white supremacy, albeit “benevolent” white supremacy rather than the openly hostile white supremacy of the pre-1960s Democratic Party.

The next time someone claims that Republicans are racist and Democrats are not, don’t fall for it.


29 posted on 12/21/2016 8:39:23 AM PST by Eddie01 (Comment removed by moderator...)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I think something like a “compact of states” could be challenged in court. It is clearly designed to circumvent the EC which is in the Constitution.


30 posted on 12/21/2016 8:40:53 AM PST by luv2ski
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To: tanuki

The super delegate system protects them from unintelligent voters. It’s their form of the intelligence test.


31 posted on 12/21/2016 8:41:23 AM PST by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist inmy lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: Mark was here
"Very interesting that the 3/5’s thing was intended to benefit the North."

Back in the day, I was taught that the 3/5ths rule was imposed as a kind of punishment on the slave states, i.e., "if the slaves don't have full rights as citizens, you can't fully count them as citizens for the electoral college." Now, it is often falsely taught - or believed - that the 3/5ths rule meant that slaves were only 3/5ths human. Also note that the rule applied only to slaves, not to free blacks.
32 posted on 12/21/2016 8:43:30 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Eddie01

And Last but not least, The USA (and the Republicans) DID NOT INVENT SLAVERY. It was a way of life for thousands of years. For many people it was like having a job. Indentured servants were slaves.

The Republicans ended it.


33 posted on 12/21/2016 8:43:38 AM PST by Mr. K ( Trump kicked her ass 2-to-1 if you remove all the voter fraud.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Tell them to push all that they want to. At the end of the day, all their effort only reveals them for what they are: totalitarians.


34 posted on 12/21/2016 8:43:52 AM PST by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Maybe it's too early in the morning for me to think, but how did a measure which effectively reduced the populations of the slave states give them more electoral votes?

The NYT suggests that direct popular vote would have not counted the slaves at all, but that counting them even at a 3:5 ratio for the House of Representatives still resulted in slave states having more relative vote-power through the Electoral College than they would have through direct voting.

The author counters that Virginia was the largest population even without the slaves, so the point is moot; they would have dominated the popular vote anyway, making the suggestion that the Electoral College was about protecting slavery wrong.

-PJ

35 posted on 12/21/2016 8:44:51 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"And they must be planning to use extra-Constitutional methods to do so"

Or by getting a liberal Supreme Court to rule that the Constitution itself is unconstitutional! Don't put it past them. In fact, I think that crazy option is their only option, as the less-populous states will never vote to disenfranchise themselves.
36 posted on 12/21/2016 8:46:49 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Terry Mross

“The super delegate system protects them from unintelligent voters. It’s their form of the intelligence test.”

Considering who they select, their ranks must need a lot of weeding out!


37 posted on 12/21/2016 8:47:02 AM PST by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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To: VitacoreVision

To the contrary - the electoral college prevented 95% of America from being enslaved by a handful of hard-left counties (which were undoubtedly full of fraudulent votes anyway).


38 posted on 12/21/2016 8:50:16 AM PST by meyer (There is no political solution to this troubling evolution...)
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To: Steve_Seattle
"When slavery was the law of the land, a direct popular vote would have disadvantaged the Southern states, with their large disenfranchised populations. Counting those men and women as three-fifths of a white person, as the Constitution originally did, gave the slave states more electoral votes.”

This assumes that the only alternative was not to count the slaves at all, but the other alternative would be to count them as full citizens, in which case the 3/5th rule would actually REDUCE the power of the slave states in the electoral college. The Times's view assumes that the 3/5ths rule was designed to benefit the slave states by giving them more weight, but that's the opposite of what I was taught.
39 posted on 12/21/2016 8:53:42 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Political Junkie Too

Thanks. I now see what the Times is getting at, but I think they’ve got it backwards by suggesting that the 3/5ths rule was intended to increase the voting power of the South. I was always taught that it was a kind of “punishment” - or perhaps “compromise” is a better word - to prevent the slave states from allowing slaves to count towards the allocation of electoral college votes while simultaneously denying them the right to vote.


40 posted on 12/21/2016 9:00:06 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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