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Fed raises rates for the second time in a decade
cnbc ^ | 12/14 | cox

Posted on 12/14/2016 11:32:55 AM PST by RummyChick

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To: dhs12345

Why the FED moved is meaningless.

It’s what you do about it that matters.


101 posted on 12/14/2016 3:18:22 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns)
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To: Starboard
Damn. We are so screwed and most Americans don't know it.

Lets hope that Trump fights back when Dems try to blame him. Of little value as the titanic slow sinks into the sea, though.

102 posted on 12/14/2016 3:18:41 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: SaxxonWoods

Yup. Gird your loins.


103 posted on 12/14/2016 3:20:45 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: rdcbn; WENDLE

[The FED is political and will need to be gutted.]

Correct

[Yellen is an Obama partisan and her days are numbered.]

I certainly hope so.


104 posted on 12/14/2016 3:26:56 PM PST by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: ColdOne

The Dallas fed guv before Kaplan was ok

Most are dems though


105 posted on 12/14/2016 3:46:43 PM PST by wardaddy (trump is a great tourniquet but that's all folks.......)
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To: ealgeone

No doubt.


106 posted on 12/14/2016 3:48:47 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: Safetgiver
What are the chances of Yellen/Obama tanking stocks in the next -30 days out of spite?

I'd say pretty dang good. Yellen, though, doesn't realize that letting bad investments fail strengthens the economy by making those resources available for another company, at a cheaper price.

107 posted on 12/14/2016 3:48:48 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: SaveFerris; WENDLE; rdcbn

Bad news: Trump can only replace 2 board members during his first term. Yellen is one of the inflation “doves;” the other 4 are far more itchy to send short-term interest rates through the roof.

Good news: 3-month rates have little effect on the deficit. Long-term rates can often go DOWN in response to short-term rates rising.

Scary news: If the long-term rates go below the short-term rates, banks lose money by lending money out, and will cause a credit crunch. In every case, this leads to a recession.

Terrible news: At best, the federal reserve seems to be the only organization left in the world ignorant of this fundamental rule of finance. At worst, they’ve deliberately caused whatever recessions we’ve had, when we’ve had them.


108 posted on 12/14/2016 3:53:01 PM PST by dangus
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To: SaxxonWoods

Ridiculous. If the Fed inverts interest rates, there will be a recession.


109 posted on 12/14/2016 3:53:41 PM PST by dangus
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To: Safetgiver

“What are the chances of Yellen/Obama tanking stocks in the next -30 days out of spite?”

The chances are zero. It’s not in their interest anyway.

I’ve never seen such hysteria over a quarter point raise, which is nothing. Go back and look at FED history.


110 posted on 12/14/2016 3:55:00 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns)
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To: editor-surveyor

That is funny. Gates said “Trump was like Kennedy” . I said “is that a threat”. That is your point. I wasn’t a Kennedy fan politically. I have concluded after study that he was a coward and traitor to the Cubans at the Bay of Pigs.He called off AIR SUPPORT!! He actually agreed with Kruchev to never invade Cuba to liberate those wonderful people from that communist bastard if the Soviets would please remove your NUKES!! Also he pulled our nukes out of TURKEY!! Absolute truth. Not what we heard from the NYT?
He had a family and I am sorry he was killed but he was a poor president. Now we have the greatest AMERICAN since George Washington!! ( as President!!)


111 posted on 12/14/2016 4:51:49 PM PST by WENDLE (Merry CHRISTx.)
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To: WENDLE

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Yes he was a mixed bag as President, but his tax cuts were what finally ended the “Great Depression” that the MSM had tried to do postmortems on so many times.


112 posted on 12/14/2016 5:00:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: wardaddy; TODDSTER

Rates are still microscopic. And it was only earlier this year that we were hearing of the possibility of negative interest rates.

This raise is on the shortest of rates, the Fed’s discount rate. On money that the Fed loans to commercial banks. It’s a means of controlling the growth of the money supply.

The broader savings pool, bond buyers at large, determine long rates as they bid at the Treasury auctions. The supply of T-bills and the inflation rate is a bigger factor here than the Fed’s discount rate.

I would think that after nearly 16 years of microcopic interest earned on savings that people would want to see rates come up some.


113 posted on 12/14/2016 5:03:06 PM PST by Pelham (the refusal to Deport is defacto Amnesty)
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To: kaehurowing

Doesn’t matter because Mr. Trump is going to repudiate all the debt created over the last eight years under an illegitimate president.


114 posted on 12/14/2016 5:24:37 PM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“According to the FED, it takes 6 months for a rate increase to work its way into the economy.” i don’t think that holds for short term rates. my guess is that in 2 months credit card rates will already be raised to reflect this increase.


115 posted on 12/14/2016 5:27:57 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: RummyChick
Queen Yellen will do all she can to SABOTAGE Trump's presidency before she gets the boot.

The global cabal would rather SABOTAGE Trump's presidency than MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

If the DemonRats can save themselves by SABOTAGING Trump's presidency, they would rather do THAT than MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

They should all be treated as ENEMY COMBATANTS and thrown into GITMO.

116 posted on 12/14/2016 5:34:59 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: dangus

Nope. They are a creature of statute. Statute!!~ Think about that.


117 posted on 12/14/2016 5:38:54 PM PST by WENDLE (Merry CHRISTx.)
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To: dhs12345

Not really. Trump’s TECH, DEFENSE, SPACE, ENERGY, MORTGAGE/LOAN, INFRASTRUCTURE/INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION II could make the post WWII economic boom seems like child’s play. The man is SERIOUS and everyone who’s met with him is convinced he is on a mission to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, BIG LEAGUE.


118 posted on 12/14/2016 5:42:27 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

We have a deep hole to climb out of. If anyone can do it it would be Trump.


119 posted on 12/14/2016 5:47:30 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Mr. Douglas

I think it will be ok. I think there is so much pent up economic activity that has been waiting for a more favorable economic and regulatory environment that it will generate enough activity to blow past the relatively higher interest rates. It’s actually racist demand that has been waiting for the black man to get out of office to start up. /s


120 posted on 12/14/2016 5:53:19 PM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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