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To: Gaffer
...I won’t under any circumstance consider a Kel-Tec anything as a reliable carry weapon.

I wish it weren't so, as they are an American-made weapon...but their reliability is suspect, at least with me.

Other's mileage may vary, but I've had two that I owned (well, still own, but they're dust collectors) and several that I've checked out, and I'm not impressed.

The fit and finish for "presentation" is good, however, the fit and finish for function is not.

A last resort gun, at best..plus I don't really trust a gun that I can see daylight through..

I recommend the Kimber for pure artistry in gun function and fit and the Bersa for inexpensive reliability.

I carry a Bersa for several reasons...one of which is that if I have to use it, I won't feel real bad about having to surrender it to the DA or the police for a few years, while my 2nd Amendment rights are being scrutinized for political purposes.

And probably not getting it back, even with a text-book good shoot.

26 posted on 12/11/2016 7:50:57 AM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: OldSmaj

I agree with you. My PMR-30 and KSG are safe queen curios. Can’t trust either of them as a go-to.

They (Keltec) have some brilliant ideas and great theoretical engineering but the rubber doesn’t hit the road when it comes to punishing, reliable use.

I can’t begin to tell you all the failures I saw on the owners’ group board, but the end was all the same. Blame it on something else, Keltec will fix it, and all you need is a “fluff and buff.”

Crazy.


33 posted on 12/11/2016 7:54:04 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: OldSmaj
A last resort gun, at best..plus I don't really trust a gun that I can see daylight through..

That knocks Glock out...

I have to wonder how Keltec got such a bad reputation. I've had pf9, 2 sub-2000s, plr-16 without a minutes trouble from any of them.

51 posted on 12/11/2016 9:10:56 AM PST by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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