ZERO print, and with .22 WMR ammo, it's got enough punch to get someone's notice.
But, it is a bit of a belly gun.
Posted on 12/11/2016 7:08:37 AM PST by rktman
Interesting. Thanks!
Now you need to join the Unaka Rod&Gun Club and practice, practice, practice ... if you’re around the Tri-Cities. Buy your ammo from Widener’s, a local wholesaler.
I usually tell folks that have a hard time racking a slide to grip the slide firmly and push the frame forward. Seems to help some that may have a problem pulling the slide. I suppose the best case is a combo of doing both. Whatever works best for you. Glad you found the Handi-Racker.
LOL “Fanner 50”, you just dated yourself my FRiend. ;)
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>> “But Trump said he will use the fed to enforce it across the country.” <<
Sounds good, but when and where did he say that??
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This locale has seen a real boom in CCW permits among seniors and women, and a large number of them have real trouble racking a slide or mastering a DA revolver pull. Recoil is an issue for many as well.
Contrary to everything I have been taught over the years, there are some instructors in the area now advocating the Ruger SR22, as they are easy to rack, have minimal recoil, can be thumb-cocked after previously decocking, and are light enough to carry around all day. The downside is that it is a .22LR pistol with all the ugliness inherent in that chambering when used as a defensive gun. I am skeptical, but I guess if it was that or nothing, I'd be carrying an SR22 (or something similar).
Mr. niteowl77
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>> “Hunted for a while looking for springs on other weapons.” <<
Good reason to stick with Glock.
Their springs are brutally stiff, but they stay put.
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ZERO print, and with .22 WMR ammo, it's got enough punch to get someone's notice.
But, it is a bit of a belly gun.
Nice tool, but if I was unable to rack an auto, I’d just go with a wheel gun. The tools would be good for general use otherwise.
Mrs. Sooner gave it a try and while she's not physically weak, she had a problem with it failing to feed, presumably because her grip was different than mine. This was really disappointing to me because I really liked the 42, more than any other Glock I've tried, and I/we were close to a decision to buy it.
A friendly reminder to all, 'specially if buying a semiauto, make sure all authorized users can shoot it without this kind of problem before buying, if possible, and it might be a good idea to have at least a couple of revolvers in your gun safe.
Also this list is rather biased toward semiautos, especially so many 1911 type semiautos and so few revolvers.
For a pocket/purse gun I'd include the Kimber (or maybe the recent 1911 type Browning?) in the list just to be uh, inclusive, but no more than one 1911. I'd include a couple more revolvers instead, chambered in .44 special, (Charter Bulldog, which has a cult following) .38 special, .327 Federal (Really .32 H&R) and/or even a .22LR (Smith model 317) or .22WMR like the Smith model 351c. Even a .22 is 100 times better than being unarmed.
Come to think of it, I think could come up with a list of "Top 10 revolvers" and it might be interesting.
However, I'm of the strong opinion that if this device is a necessity for a self-defense situation, then one would be best served by leaving it and the weapon at home and switching to a wheel gun.
It is my opinion, and something that I used to teach to my CQB/concealed carry students, that anything, anything, that adds to the action of deploying a defensive weapon, necessarily detracts from the successful use of that weapon.
Having said that, I refer to that first rule of a gun fight, and that is that one must have a gun, but let us not forget that the ability to effectively deploy that gun must be paramount.
I see the effectiveness of the device only if the gun you need it for will never stovepipe, misfeed, jam or otherwise malfunction to the point of needing to be racked.
That gun does not exist, therefor the device is of little use for a defensive need.
So, I strongly, strongly recommend a revolver for anyone that lacks the hand strength to manually rack a slide, unassisted.
Take it to the range, go varmint-potting with it, teach your grand-children and children, as the case may be, to use the weapon with and without it...but please, do not rely upon it as a concealed carry defense.
That is my opinion...and I do respect your opinion in regards to it, but falling back on my experience and training, I can only say that I know it will cause problems under an adrenaline laden, tunnel-vision, time-stopping situation.
If you have no other alternative, then train, train, train...and then train some more with it, until it becomes as instinctive to deploy it, as it would be to, say, pull your shirt up as you draw your weapon from an IWB rig.
An alternative, for someone that just CANNOT give up a slide-type gun, invest in some good gunsmith work and have an assist attached to the slide.
I've seen them, I believe Reid Coffield and some other prominent gunsmiths have addressed them.
They are expensive, add weight to the gun, enhance the chances of hooking clothing, etc, but it is something to consider.
Good luck.
Do you mean .38 +P
or .357 Mag ?
I fancy Ruger wheel Guns.
You certainly make a lot of judgemental assumptions and inferences. ;-)
FYI, my primary carry gun is a Smith & Wesson Model 60 in .357 magnum. I'm a big fan of wheel guns. However, to say the Handi-Racker is a waste of time and money is simply foolish. If someone who's handicapped must use a semi-auto, it can make the difference between having some protection or none; the choice is obvious.
My use of the tool is mainly for my full-size range guns, e.g. my Browning HiPower, so I can get a few more years of enjoyment out of them. However, should I acquire a M&P Shield, or a Ruger LC9s Pro, it will certainly help me there, with the proper precautions.
BTW, I do agree with you that if you're going to use a semi-auto as your carry gun, it should be racked. There is of course debate on this issue, with many experts arguing the opposite. Bottom line, each individual has to evaluate their own circumstances and abilities and decide accordingly.
Thank you for the kind remarks. Hope you and your family have a joyous and safe Christmas and New Years.
Kahr PM9 with Laser
I share with you a distrust of the .22LR as a self defense choice. I would only use one if I could absolutely not find anything else. ;-)
Maybe for you. I have only one hand and it makes it easier for me. I had learned how to rack a semi auto with one hand, but a guy showed me one. I tried it. I liked it. I bought it.
Maybe for you. I have only one hand and it makes it easier for me. I had learned how to rack a semi auto with one hand, but a guy showed me one. I tried it. I liked it. I bought it.
Sorry about your hand.
Unlike you, most all folks who carry a defensive weapon must choose to either carry it with a unit in the chamber or risk not having two hands free to do so. Two hands free is an unacceptable choice. Hence my comment. I have no problem with a chambered round. I was addressing my comments only to those who have some reason not to carry with a round in the chamber.
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