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CIA Reportedly Concludes Russian Interference Aimed To Elect Trump
NPR ^ | 12/10/2016 | Emma Bowman

Posted on 12/10/2016 7:23:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Gaffer

This one has always been a huge question mark for me.How does one building stand after a fire and another implode immediately?

https://more911.wordpress.com/wtc7-building7/

Building 7
World Trade Centre Build 7 (WTC 7) also known as “The Solomon’s Building” aka Building 7 was the third building to be destroyed on September 11th, 2001. It was a 47 story high steel frame building. The most salient question is; what caused Building 7 to fall at [1] freefall speeds for 8 stores? The building was not hit by any aeroplanes and there were no large raging fires. But yet it fell, fast and symmetrically into its own footprint. a few but limited fires.

Watch the 8 floors of free fall that starts off Building 7’s destruction:

Do the fires in the clip below look like they are endangering Building 7?

Did the fires you have just seen, cause 8 floors of free fall and the total destruction of Building 7, or not? That is the question, how can you find the answer?

First, what is freefall?

It’s not a speed, it’s an acceleration, an object getting fast and faster.
Free fall can only be obtained if there is nothing below a dropped object to slow it down.
More technically, it’s gravitational acceleration at 9.81 meters squared.
What then was holding Building 7 up?

Building 7 Typical floor plan

An exoskeleton of 57 steel columns.
Plus 22 steel columns for internal concrete clad lift shaft and fire escape stairwells.
In all a total of 79 steel columns plus concrete.

With reference to the above, the refined question being asked is?

What could simultaneous and symmetrical cause the removal of 57 external steel columns and 22 internal columns for lift shafts and fireproof stairwells?

There are two competing theories:

Fire causing collapse.
Demolition explosives causing collapse.
Q.
How can you evaluate these theories?

A.
By looking at the extent of damage to steel framed buildings after known fires.
By looking at examples of successful and failed demolitions using explosives

A Look at building fires:

al-tayer-tower-2012

Al Tayer Tower 2012. I count 39 visible stores standing after the blaze. Click for Video

24 hours of fire madrid-windsor-tower-after
Windsor Building, 2005 Madrid. Burns for 24 hours. Click for Video

jianye-building-in-yuexiu-distric-15th-dec-2013-on-fire jianye-building-in-yuexiu-distric-15th-dec-2013-after
Jianye Building, 2013 in Yuexiu district China. Burns for 12 hours. Click for cell phone Video

mandarin-oriental-2009-40-stories

Hotel Mandarin Oriental, 2009 Beijing. 40 stories burn overnight. Click for video

wtc7-what-next

Building 7, 2001 New York. 8 scattered floors burn for 4 hours. Click for video

wtc7-what-you-would-expect

Building 7, 2001 New York. To the right shows what engineers would expect to be left afterwards, but bellow shows what was actually found aftwards. See WTC7 free fall video.

building-7-rubble-pile

A Look at demolitions:

wtc-no-8-floor-gapwtc-8-floor-gap

Some common demolition traits are:

Sudden onset
Symmetrical fall for a number of floors
Freefall speeds for a number of floors
Pulverisation of concrete and other materials
Thick dust clouds
Horizontal ejections

Remember the Build 7 destruction shows 8 floors of freefall (i.e. the gap on the left).

Red Road Flats, 2015 Glasgow. Look for the aprox 5 floors exploded on each tower block.

Building 7, 2001 New York. Side by side to known controlled demolitions.

Conclusion:

Where is the integrity of the news reporters, engineers, architects… who know that there are glaring flaws in the NIST report into the collapse of Building 7, but fail to point them out?

Are those that promote the “conspiracy theory” meme i.e. conflating unrelated events together themselves guilty of perverting the course of justice by preventing open debate and analysis? Do you know someone who does this? If so, challenge them. Show them the evidence and given them a chance to stop protecting murderers.

[1] page 45, NIST NCSTAR 1A Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7


121 posted on 12/11/2016 4:04:18 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Gaffer

This one has always been a huge question mark for me.How does one building stand after a fire and another implode immediately?

https://more911.wordpress.com/wtc7-building7/

Building 7
World Trade Centre Build 7 (WTC 7) also known as “The Solomon’s Building” aka Building 7 was the third building to be destroyed on September 11th, 2001. It was a 47 story high steel frame building. The most salient question is; what caused Building 7 to fall at [1] freefall speeds for 8 stores? The building was not hit by any aeroplanes and there were no large raging fires. But yet it fell, fast and symmetrically into its own footprint. a few but limited fires.

Watch the 8 floors of free fall that starts off Building 7’s destruction:

Do the fires in the clip below look like they are endangering Building 7?

Did the fires you have just seen, cause 8 floors of free fall and the total destruction of Building 7, or not? That is the question, how can you find the answer?

First, what is freefall?

It’s not a speed, it’s an acceleration, an object getting fast and faster.
Free fall can only be obtained if there is nothing below a dropped object to slow it down.
More technically, it’s gravitational acceleration at 9.81 meters squared.
What then was holding Building 7 up?

Building 7 Typical floor plan

An exoskeleton of 57 steel columns.
Plus 22 steel columns for internal concrete clad lift shaft and fire escape stairwells.
In all a total of 79 steel columns plus concrete.

With reference to the above, the refined question being asked is?

What could simultaneous and symmetrical cause the removal of 57 external steel columns and 22 internal columns for lift shafts and fireproof stairwells?

There are two competing theories:

Fire causing collapse.
Demolition explosives causing collapse.
Q.
How can you evaluate these theories?

A.
By looking at the extent of damage to steel framed buildings after known fires.
By looking at examples of successful and failed demolitions using explosives

A Look at building fires:

al-tayer-tower-2012

Al Tayer Tower 2012. I count 39 visible stores standing after the blaze. Click for Video

24 hours of fire madrid-windsor-tower-after
Windsor Building, 2005 Madrid. Burns for 24 hours. Click for Video

jianye-building-in-yuexiu-distric-15th-dec-2013-on-fire jianye-building-in-yuexiu-distric-15th-dec-2013-after
Jianye Building, 2013 in Yuexiu district China. Burns for 12 hours. Click for cell phone Video

mandarin-oriental-2009-40-stories

Hotel Mandarin Oriental, 2009 Beijing. 40 stories burn overnight. Click for video

wtc7-what-next

Building 7, 2001 New York. 8 scattered floors burn for 4 hours. Click for video

wtc7-what-you-would-expect

Building 7, 2001 New York. To the right shows what engineers would expect to be left afterwards, but bellow shows what was actually found aftwards. See WTC7 free fall video.

building-7-rubble-pile

A Look at demolitions:

wtc-no-8-floor-gapwtc-8-floor-gap

Some common demolition traits are:

Sudden onset
Symmetrical fall for a number of floors
Freefall speeds for a number of floors
Pulverisation of concrete and other materials
Thick dust clouds
Horizontal ejections

Remember the Build 7 destruction shows 8 floors of freefall (i.e. the gap on the left).

Red Road Flats, 2015 Glasgow. Look for the aprox 5 floors exploded on each tower block.

Building 7, 2001 New York. Side by side to known controlled demolitions.

Conclusion:

Where is the integrity of the news reporters, engineers, architects… who know that there are glaring flaws in the NIST report into the collapse of Building 7, but fail to point them out?

Are those that promote the “conspiracy theory” meme i.e. conflating unrelated events together themselves guilty of perverting the course of justice by preventing open debate and analysis? Do you know someone who does this? If so, challenge them. Show them the evidence and given them a chance to stop protecting murderers.

[1] page 45, NIST NCSTAR 1A Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7


122 posted on 12/11/2016 4:04:26 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They couldn’t find any information on The Clinton violation of the Espionage Act! Then they come up with this crap? CIA=Clinton Intelligence Assclowns!!!


123 posted on 12/11/2016 9:49:18 AM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: Squantos

Different time zones, maybe, with a different market.

WSJ did print two different editions on this issue.

As you posted, WHY?


124 posted on 12/11/2016 10:11:21 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining loserers,Trump will just go ahead and make things better for us without you!!!!")
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To: SeekAndFind

Is that the same CIA that is headed by a muslim appointee of obama? It is. Ok.

Most people would probably be somewhat surprised if they were ever told who was working at places like the CIA, FBI, DOJ, etc. One friend of mine, who is in federal service told me that they were amazed at how many Bernie stickers they saw in the parking lots. I guess if you’re on the government dole, living/working in DC, it’s easy to go that route.

And the CIA is no different. Remember, not everyone who works there is some James Bond/Jason Bourne, patriot that loves this country. Lots of young, fresh out of college. liberals doing all sorts of work there.


125 posted on 12/11/2016 12:38:41 PM PST by qaz123
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To: SeekAndFind

Why does it seem Trump is not worried by this 2 pronged attempt to steal the Presidency? Front 1 is the recount. Front 2 is to invalidate the election results saying Russia interfered.


126 posted on 12/11/2016 1:58:59 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: ScottinVA
Yes, I find it interesting that Obama and Hillary considered Russia their best friend...until about this October, when suddenly Russia were the bad guys.
127 posted on 12/11/2016 2:00:36 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: qaz123

Trump needs to clean house.


128 posted on 12/11/2016 2:01:34 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: SeekAndFind

Specifics please.


129 posted on 12/11/2016 2:03:38 PM PST by jetson
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To: Sam Gamgee

People who actually understand how the system works aren’t freaking over recounts or “invalidated” results.

Any true evidence can be presented to the public to influence the Electoral College, or to Congress to overrule the Electoral College. Anonymous sources citing unreliable evidence is not a legal standard.

No savvy Democrat wants a do over.

What we have here is a lot of MSM and RINO masks falling off, and that’s good.


130 posted on 12/11/2016 2:15:27 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: petercooper

Trump will be FIRING a whole lot of ineffectual bureaucrats @ CIA, DOJ, State Dept, IRS, ..... etc., soon!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-10/cia-moves-invalidate-us-presidential-elections-blaming-russian-hacking


131 posted on 12/11/2016 2:19:54 PM PST by Trump_vs_Evil_Witch (As for Hillary....She belongs in federal prison)
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To: bray

Seth Rich is unavailable for comment.


132 posted on 12/11/2016 2:26:13 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: SeekAndFind

And Idiot Drudge Blares the lie from his site as if its fact, and links to the Washington Post and Politico. He can be a F****** Moron.


133 posted on 12/11/2016 2:33:28 PM PST by heights
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To: SeekAndFind

First... good! Second... it never happened... Third... McCain needs to find a nice assisted living place and check himself in...


134 posted on 12/11/2016 2:48:06 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: SeekAndFind

More fake news. Defund NPR and see if they can compete on their own.

5.56mm


135 posted on 12/11/2016 2:59:18 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: arrogantsob
That very weakness to hacking by enemies - not just Russia is what the judge cited as the reason for the info sent to Wiki Leaks. Her negligence caused undercover agents to be exposed, and have to run for their life. Some didn't run fast enough and died.

Revenge and self protection - powerful motives, so he makes a good case.

As you pointed out - the real problem is that classified information was on a server that could be hacked so easily. More than likely it was not just the Russians that hacked it.

This is the way the Clinton's always handle their scandals. Point to a distraction or point the finger at someone else. The press is always happy to talk about the distraction ad-nauseum.

136 posted on 12/11/2016 6:32:55 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: SeekAndFind

Because the leaks were all on the DNC and not Republicans, we are to assume this was the Russians. Meanwhile they don’t assume Hillary’s SOS emails were hacked by Russians?

Meanwhile 95% of the media are on an all out one way assault on the Republican. They generate fake news called polls.


137 posted on 12/11/2016 6:38:52 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Squantos

#snopesisfake


138 posted on 12/12/2016 3:45:28 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of CS paid is inversely proportionate to Mother's actual parenting of children)
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“Thanks, ReaganGeneration2 & H/T WildHighlander57”

BUMP!


139 posted on 12/12/2016 7:23:41 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: SeekAndFind

Is it time for President Trump in 2017 to end the CIA?

President Truman did not trust the OSS and its increasing power.

At the end of WWII, he signed an ExO ending the OSS.

September 20, 1945, President Truman signed Executive Order 9621, terminating the OSS. His Order became effective October 1, 1945. In the days following, the functions of the OSS were split between the Department of State and the Department of War.

The State Department received the Research and Analysis Branch of OSS (originally created by Edward Mead Earle[28]) which was renamed the Interim Research and Intelligence Service or IRIS,[29] headed by U.S. Army Colonel Alfred McCormack. Later it was renamed the Bureau of Intelligence and Research by the State Department.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Strategic_Service


140 posted on 12/12/2016 9:13:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (We've been lied to so many times by the MSM! We are livoinging in a world that doesn't exist!)
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