Absolutely, at least the southern half.
I sure hope any Californians seeking asylum in the US are fully vetted before being allowed to regain US Citizenship.
Even without illegals voting in California Hillary still wins that state comfortably. What do you expect from a state that voted to ban plastic bags?
Ours has become the ‘stupid state’.
In the '60s, many tried to start communes to live the "philosophical good life" and they quickly discovered that there were too many leeches who wanted to reap the rewards of others' labors w/o producing anything of their own - one would think it would have served as a wake up call but stupid is as stupid does, over and over again....
YES. I agree. Let them go.
California does not have the moral or legal justification to secede.
“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed”. - Declaration of Independence (DofI).
The DofI may be the best outline ever created to justify secession. A state can’t just up and say, “OK were outta here.” Individuals may leave, but not a state must have more than “transient causes” to overthrow its governance.
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.” - DofI.
Where is the “long train of abuses” CA has suffered? Where has CA gone on record to show how it has suffered “a long train” of unconstitutional federal acts, the ONLY legal justification for secession?
Let them secede. Laugh when they beg for foreign aid. Don’t accept immigration back into the US...you wanted it, you stay and make it work.
Then we can take it back when the already growing number of volcanoes and earthquakes drops half of it into the Pacific, make it back into a reasonable state again.
It’s coming I think. Geological activity growing all around the “ring of fire”...Japan, Chile, the rumblings are started, I just hope Yellowstone doesn’t join the party...it’s overdue, so is the San Andreas fault, not to mention the other minor faults in the area. And with the coming solar minimum...if I lived there I’d be moving out as fast as I could before it all goes to hell in a handbasket...
Even the People’s Republic of Oregon went 41% Trump.
When we lived for a while in the Bay area, I was repeatedly struck with the thought that even though the people around me were speaking English (most of them anyway), what they were saying made it clear that we did not live in the same country. That was not just true when the topic turned to politics; it was true about almost everything.
The Upper Peninsula of Michigan is a different country.
The Idaho Panhandle is a different country.
The Ozarks are a different country.
Lahaina (on the island of Maui) is a different country.
The Bayou is a different country.
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Regards,
Texans would be happy to contribute to building a wall around CA. Those Communist-leaning voters are moving into Texas after fouling their own nest, and we are sick of it.
One has to wonder how long it would be before California became Mexico again if it were to succeed.
Let em go but they have to leave all military bases as part of the US.
Sometimes, when one has cancer, the treatment to save the person is the surgically remove the tumor. Removing much of the coastal areas of California, but not San Diego or the red interior, would be such a surgery for the US. I’m all for it. The remaining US could become healthy again, and the tumor, well, who cares what happens to it.
During a text argument about the electoral college that I had with my commie brother who lives in CA last night: “Let me tell you, if California’s ends up dying of thirst and you end up asking me for help, I’ll FedEx you my piss.”
I meant it. If California tries to secede then I believe that it will end in civil war.
Kalifornia prides itself as being one of the largest economies in the world (6th iirc). However, if separated from the cashflow lifeline of the American taxpayers it wouldn’t be able to hold its own very long. Billions (trillions?) in debt and the leaches of welfare / illegals sucking at the teat, businesses hamstrung by regulations second only to those created by 0bama it has no place to go but down. However, save the portions desiring to become the state of Jefferson - these are the ones who are worth retaining for our country. Let the urban hell holes / sanctuary cities fall into the ocean.
God will take care of it at the right time.
There is a reason why the San Andreas Fault is where it is and the wicked are running to it.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure...
From the last time the democrats seceded from the union
If you want to take it one step further, the Hillary vote came from the 32 CA Coastal counties which encompass the large metropolitan cities whereas the 26 Inland Empire counties went for Trump. SO, if you slice off the coastal area bounded on the East by the San Andreas fault (If you get my drift), Trump wins the Popular vote.