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To: randita
In my experience, they will try just as hard to get it right the second time as they did the first time. As somebody who has personally been involved in the process (and had other members of my immediate family involved in it as well) I can tell you that election officials take the job very seriously, very solemnly, and there are a great many people -- especially lawyers -- looking over their shoulders at all critical times.

If it comes to a recount, Trump and the RNC will have a lawyer/lawyers in every place where the recount is going on.

It gives me a huge pain in the rear when I read cavalier comments by (some) FReepers about how easy it is to manufacture thousands of votes. It's much easier to create fake voters than it is to gin up votes once the process is underway. That's why the registration organizers are usually the ones investigated, not the election officials.

54 posted on 11/27/2016 1:30:55 AM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

Do you know if the military absentee ballots have been counted in PA?


80 posted on 11/27/2016 4:36:52 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: FredZarguna

Thanks for chiming in on that. I think people forget that the chain of custody of the ballots/machines and the actual counting are monitored very closely by representatives of all political parties and lawyers. It’s not a couple of guys in a back room with dim lighting.

If there is foul play, it is easiest to perpetrate it in the registration process or in the voting process-especially in those states where voter ID is not required.


90 posted on 11/27/2016 5:33:53 AM PST by randita (PLEASE STOP ALL THE WORTHLESS VANITIES!)
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To: FredZarguna

I beg to differ. Many of the comments here are from past experiences. Submitting fake votes requires more creativity than was once required, but they do it.

I’m under the opinion that in isolated ‘fraud-ridden’ counties in battleground states, SoE workers systematically manufactures votes and they are set aside to be used, as needed. Casting these latent votes can be risky because they run the risk of getting caught through over-votes and other irregularities.

By planting fictitious names and accepting alien registrations that are unlikely to vote, they can add thousands of voters to the rolls. I once saw dozens of names on the rolls registered to the same nonexistent address. They have also caught thousands registered to a PO Box mailing center place.

An election official or their insider friend requests absentee ballots for these faux-voters, but they never actually mail these ballots. When and if they need them, they use they ballots to push their candidate(s) over the top. Too bad Hillary’s pollsters had given her such a substantial lead. They did not think that she needed any help, especially in the rust-belt.

Another cheating way would be in the handling of absentee ballots. The ones from (R) precincts can be discarded. Or they can be opened and additional candidates can be bubbled in invalidating a specific race completely. Another way would be to select Clinton when the actual potus race had not shown a preference.

It appears that Florida was absolutely headed this way. Trump’s attorneys were brought in to challenge the premature opening of 130,000 or maybe it was 150,000 absentee ballots about a week prior to the election. They were being opened without supervision and once the ballots are separated from their envelopes, they become invalidated.

About four days prior to election day a ‘whistle blower’ from inside the Supervisor of Elections office reports witnessing twice, four SoE employees filling out stacks of ballots behind a locked door. She was fired when they relized what she had witnessed. She submitted an affidavit and the State district attorney paid a visit the next day to the SoE. It stopped with a lame excuse. At the same time, a talking head from Hillary’s team is on FOX news claiming that the AA vote is surging for Hillary in Broward.

This is all in Broward, Florida. They tried and they got caught, redhanded. Had these events continued, unabated, surely Donald Trump would have lost Florida. I will post links to these events.

And its very likely that Mitt Romney won Florida, based on the numbers. He just never knew it because they cheat.

If this large scale fraud does not stop we will never win another election.

They need to place 24 hour surveillance in election worker offices to prevent these games and the rolls need some serious purging.


94 posted on 11/27/2016 6:08:10 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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To: FredZarguna

Michigan reportedly has 85000 ballots with the presidential election left unmarked. That makes me nervous.


102 posted on 11/27/2016 7:01:50 AM PST by MarMema (thank you President elect Trump for all you have done!!!)
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