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Left's new argument: Hillary didn't lose
The Hill ^ | 11-23-16 | Joe Uchill

Posted on 11/25/2016 8:07:13 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins

Liberals searching for answers to Donald Trump’s surprise victory in the presidential election have latched on to a new explanation: Hillary Clinton didn’t really lose.

A growing “audit the vote” movement, which has garnered high-profile backers like “Avengers” director Joss Whedon and actress Debra Messing, argue election tampering or incompetence may have led to Trump being declared the winner.

They are demanding that the Department of Justice and election officials check voting machines and vote totals to make sure the results in the states of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania are accurate. Trump has been declared the winner in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and has a lead in Michigan, where some media groups have declared him the winner.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016recount; steinrecount; wirecount
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To: reasonisfaith

3.5 million foreigners voted according to truethevote a week ago or more now.


81 posted on 11/26/2016 5:44:13 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

In Wisconsin which uses all paper ballots, what they may be hoping for is that the recount will take too long and not meet the Dec 19the deadline. The last state recount took a month, and WI has never recounted a Presidential election.

It is theoretically possible for HRC to get all 46 Electoral votes WI,MI, PA) at stake and win ... with enough cheating ... with enough ‘newly found’ boxes and vans filled with uncounted votes.

Naturally, this will start a civil war which will be much to the liking of Soros, Lewis, Steyer, 0bama, et al. This will see well armed and massive ISIS and Drug Cartel led armies pouring over the southern boarder and small hit teams coming across the northern boarder. Inner city thugs will team up to help deny access to key transportation choke points.


82 posted on 11/26/2016 5:59:12 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
It will come full circle when liberals start demanding voter ID laws, LOL.
83 posted on 11/26/2016 6:00:38 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

This argument boils down to: “Trump didn’t cheat enough to prove he would make a good President.”


84 posted on 11/26/2016 6:02:48 AM PST by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

What actually happened was that the cities, especially the black controlled cities, lost.

Cities have evolved into controllers and lackies. The controllers lost.


85 posted on 11/26/2016 6:03:29 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Does America still have lots of safe closets?)
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To: PIF

That’s what I thought, thank you.


86 posted on 11/26/2016 6:55:45 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: PIF

Just wondering if the military absentee ballots have been counted.


87 posted on 11/26/2016 7:05:46 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Extract ALL votes from illegal immigrants HELLARY LOSES popular vote NO DOUBT about it!!!!


88 posted on 11/26/2016 7:08:27 AM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Yes, LET’S AUDIT the voting process in the USA.

That is one of the first tasks I hope PE Trump goes after.

Here is MY recommendation for PE Trump::

I want the entire voting rolls of every county —all 3144 of them—shut down, frozen & archived as of Jan 31, 2017. Then, starting Feb 1, 2017 until July 4, 2017, EVERYONE has to re-register. In Person AT THE COUNTY OFFICES WITH COUNTY EMPLOYEES who will have to sign the registration form along with the applicant. Counties can set up mobile vans for this process, but ONLY County employees can do the work & they must sign each application. There has to be accountability.

NO MORE ‘LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS’ or any other group is allowed to do this registration work. I believe that Americans have seen enough monkey business with their votes & they are willing to clean this up.

No more paid ‘volunteers’ wandering the malls & getting ‘registrations. NO matter the group paying them.....

Need a photo ID & 2 other forms of ID to register to vote. No EXCEPTIONS. NO OBAMA telling illegals—”GO VOTE- THEY WON’T STOP YOU”-—which is a crime of election tampering & he should be indicted for it, IMO. When election day comes, you still need ID to actually vote.

The new voting rolls will be properly maintained in an ongoing basis & counties will not be allowed to retain dead people & those who have moved just to keep getting extra funds to run their elections from the Feds. The Feds need to stop paying such amounts, also.

ANY county that has improper or invalid voters on it’s rolls, will pay a fine of $10,000 per registration found wrong. That fine will automatically be deducted from any other Fed funds that go to that County.

There will be annual audits. Death certificates will be sent to the county registrar of voters & used accordingly. Changes of address will be sent to the county, also, so people won’t be registered in multiple places.

NO MORE early voting. Too much area for fraud. Either go to the polls on election day or don’t vote. Open the polls for a longer time period if necessary. When poll closing time hits, an officer must be put into the line & NO more people can be added to the line. IF you cannot read a clock & plan far enough ahead, you probably aren’t informed enough to vote, anyway.

Absentee voting only with a very valid reason. I believe there are college students that are voting absentee from their parents addresses & voting in person at school. Those in hospitals or nursing homes need to be registered by COUNTY OFFICIALS using mobile vans to GO TO those facilities & register the voter. A competency test will be applied at such locations. Workers at such facilities will NOT be allowed to vote for the patient. Only family members.

ANY person found to have voted more than once will be prosecuted & jailed for a MINIMUM of 20 years. They will be stripped of their right to vote for the rest of their life.

No felons will ever be allowed to vote again. Do the crime—get the full punishment.

Voter ID will be a NATIONAL law—not state by state. Present a valid ID when you vote or you don’t vote. I need a valid ID to have Library card—to get welfare benefits—to get on a plane—and to open a bank account. Voting should be just as important.

IF Mechanical machines are to be used, they cannot be ‘rented’ from people like George Soros. Banks don’t buy their software from Bonnie & Clyde!!! Either the state owns the machines OR ONLY Paper ballots can be used. IF it takes a few hours longer to do the counting—so be it. Before computers, the votes got cast & counted just fine. Everything doesn’t have to be ‘electronic’. We cannot worry about 16 or more states that might have been tampered with or machines that ‘flip’ you vote in front of your eyes.....

Ballots will ONLY be printed in English. Printing ballots in 60 ++ languages & dialects in Los Angeles County & San Francisco has to end. English has to be the official language of the USA.

EVERY ballot printed must be accounted for. X amount printed. XX amount returned & counted. XXX amount left over. Absentee ballots must be printed on different paper so they can be accounted for also. Stuffing ballot boxes has to become a thing of the past. Filling out absentee ballots in a secret room in Florida, as happened this year, has to be prosecuted & severe punishment meted out.

Purple fingers are OK with me, also. Forget the ‘I voted’ sticker—use the purple finger as the signal.

All the nonsense about a recount for the person who finished 4th in a 4 person race & having it funded by Soros & the Clintons is tampering with an election, IMO.

The effort by Clinton to reverse a lefal process is another example of why she should never be President or hold any high office in the USA. Please, PR Trump- have your Attny Gen prosecute her & Judicial Watch has plenty to do it with.


89 posted on 11/26/2016 7:29:44 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: stratboy

Los Angeles county is the horbed of most of the voter fraud.
messing lives there.. Perhaps she should get credentials to work as a poll watcher & see the high number of suspicious people that come in & need ‘Spanish’ ballots.

Maybe she needs to get down on the sidewalk with the rest of us & see how much voter fraud occurs where she lives.

Voting only with her vagina doesn’t say much for her college education.


90 posted on 11/26/2016 7:39:53 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
audit the vote
I’d be impressed if I thought you wanted truth rather than victory exclusively.

In the future, if you want a real vote, eliminate unconstitutional early “voting” - and photograph each applicant for a ballot on election day. Then if you think there was hanky panky, you can investigate the identities of the actual culprits, if any.


91 posted on 11/26/2016 7:53:50 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: ScubieNuc

I would expect (Trump’s”) either New York City or to Washington to be nuked (by Iran or a NKork bomb supplied to the Muslim terrorists) prior to the inauguration - but when Trump is in either city.

Sure the Muslim goal is to destroy either city, but the democrats’ main goal is to kill Trump.


92 posted on 11/26/2016 8:10:34 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Probably not ... wouldn’t want those baby-killers to swing the election ...


93 posted on 11/26/2016 8:11:53 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Catholic Canadian

I hate to say this kind of thing, but it’s quite clear over 50% of the population of the US is completely insane.
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If it’s correct that almost half of eligible voters don’t vote, and half of those who do will vote for a low-life like Clinton, it’s not much of a stretch to conclude that well over half of the voting population is woefully ignorant.


94 posted on 11/26/2016 5:37:57 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Time for the 'TRUMP 2020' yard signs)
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