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To: hotsteppa

Not a good pick. What is school choice? The right to send your kid to any school you want. OK, take it from a veteran educator as to how this works. Lowlife ghetto thug students foul their own nest by committing acts of school violence, having lousy attendance records, cutting classes, disrupting what classes they do attend, and doing little to no work for these classes. A school full of this kind of student will be a failing school, no matter what caliber of teacher is there. So the parents of these students don’t want their kid in a “failing school”, even if they had a hand in making it so. They get the kid admitted to a school which is still functioning well. You get enough of these kind of students transferring to this new school and guess what? They turn it into a crap hole like they just left. They have no idea of how one properly conducts oneself in school, how to effectively participate in class, how to have respect for teachers, how to seek help in subjects giving them trouble, etc. Moreover, they intimidate the original students in the new school and basically take over, turning the new school into a ghetto school. Naive optimists are thinking, “Oh, being around good students will turn these poor students into good students by example.” Nope. It always goes the other way. Formerly well-behaved students start mouthing off and otherwise imitating their new classmates, and that’s the end of that school.


41 posted on 11/23/2016 10:46:38 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

the private schools will quickly remove the bad kids from the school.... There will be waiting list for kids to go to the now available private schools.


44 posted on 11/23/2016 10:50:37 AM PST by Vlaxo
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To: EinNYC
What is school choice? The right to send your kid to any school you want. OK, take it from a veteran educator as to how this works. Lowlife ghetto thug students foul their own nest by committing acts of school violence, having lousy attendance records, cutting classes, disrupting what classes they do attend, and doing little to no work for these classes. A school full of this kind of student will be a failing school, no matter what caliber of teacher is there. So the parents of these students don’t want their kid in a “failing school”, even if they had a hand in making it so. They get the kid admitted to a school which is still functioning well. You get enough of these kind of students transferring to this new school and guess what? They turn it into a crap hole like they just left. They have no idea of how one properly conducts oneself in school, how to effectively participate in class, how to have respect for teachers, how to seek help in subjects giving them trouble, etc. Moreover, they intimidate the original students in the new school and basically take over, turning the new school into a ghetto school. Naive optimists are thinking, “Oh, being around good students will turn these poor students into good students by example.” Nope. It always goes the other way. Formerly well-behaved students start mouthing off and otherwise imitating their new classmates, and that’s the end of that school.

You are correct.

143 posted on 11/23/2016 12:26:12 PM PST by CrosscutSaw
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To: EinNYC
A school full of this kind of student will be a failing school, no matter what caliber of teacher is there.

Right. But the root of the problem is broken, dysfunctional black families. I can *guarantee* that throwing more and more money at them is a complete waste of resources. DeVos and Trump will fail, if this is their plan. School choice will make a small but negligible difference.

The solution is scrapping the welfare state. It will take one or two generations to scrap it. Those embedded in it currently are without hope. These get grandfathered into it. Anyone born after a certain date will not be eligible for welfare. Sink or swim. Keep your legs together.

166 posted on 11/23/2016 1:13:56 PM PST by bkopto
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To: EinNYC

So what’s the solution - to keep warehousing them into crap “scrools”? How does that help the country? These inner cities are festering sores - we have to start turning things around.


168 posted on 11/23/2016 1:23:02 PM PST by quesney
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To: EinNYC

“Naive optimists are thinking, “Oh, being around good students will turn these poor students into good students by example.” Nope. It always goes the other way.”

Well, 95% of the time, at least. That’s the Law of Moral Gravity: like “King Of The Hill”; it’s ALWAYS easier to get pulled down than to pull someone else up. Takes a VERY strong, well-rooted character to resist the pull, and that’s rare in kids under — well, under 30, these days, but, you get the drift.


200 posted on 11/23/2016 3:56:37 PM PST by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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