Posted on 11/23/2016 10:20:12 AM PST by hotsteppa
BREAKING NEWS: President-elect Donald Trump has named Betsy DeVos, a conservative activist and billionaire philanthropist who has pushed forcefully for private school voucher programs nationwide, as his nominee for education secretary, according to a person close to DeVos.
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Not a good pick. What is school choice? The right to send your kid to any school you want. OK, take it from a veteran educator as to how this works. Lowlife ghetto thug students foul their own nest by committing acts of school violence, having lousy attendance records, cutting classes, disrupting what classes they do attend, and doing little to no work for these classes. A school full of this kind of student will be a failing school, no matter what caliber of teacher is there. So the parents of these students don’t want their kid in a “failing school”, even if they had a hand in making it so. They get the kid admitted to a school which is still functioning well. You get enough of these kind of students transferring to this new school and guess what? They turn it into a crap hole like they just left. They have no idea of how one properly conducts oneself in school, how to effectively participate in class, how to have respect for teachers, how to seek help in subjects giving them trouble, etc. Moreover, they intimidate the original students in the new school and basically take over, turning the new school into a ghetto school. Naive optimists are thinking, “Oh, being around good students will turn these poor students into good students by example.” Nope. It always goes the other way. Formerly well-behaved students start mouthing off and otherwise imitating their new classmates, and that’s the end of that school.
They already have. Read the comments in the WaPo article.
If the boss hired the right employees from the start, he wouldn’t have to go behind them with a pooper scooper. Fox and hen house mentality in appointing a Common Core advocate in charge of education.
the private schools will quickly remove the bad kids from the school.... There will be waiting list for kids to go to the now available private schools.
I would have preferred Michelle Rhee.
Her husband has a lot of baggage. I don’t know if that factored into the decision.
Big whoop. She’s pro-Common Core. We don’t need anyone who’s pro-Common Core.
FACT: She has never supported Common Core nor does she. She has been a part of orgs that do, but she does not support.
See post #46.
Well, that does it! I’m finished with Trump!
The real issues are in the details:
“Despite all the concern, though, it seems unlikely that Trump can actually do anything to eliminate Common Core. Adoption and continued use of the standards is entirely controlled by state and local governments; while the Obama administration used stimulus funds to encourage Common Core’s adoption, those funds have been exhausted and nothing currently compels states to remain on Common Core. They all have the power to leave, and a few, such as Oklahoma, already have. Furthermore, the Every Student Succeeds Act (ESSA), the current law governing education, prohibits the federal government from coercing states regarding the standards they use.”
“In order to root out Common Core, then, Trump would have to replace or ignore ESSA and intervene at the state level to get rid of Common Core. That would hardly comport with Trump’s rhetoric about having education controlled at the local level.”
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If this report is accurate, Common Core is no longer funded or assisted by the federal government. It’s now in the hands of the 40 states that use it. In other words, Common Core is now an issue for each individual state to decide.
So then the complaint here would be moot.
Perhaps De Vos was once a promoter for Common Core but as it looks now, she can no longer promote it. All President Trump has to do is not sign onto any budget item for Common Core.
De Vos’ last involvement in education was over choices that made education unions mad. That’s a good thing. Perhaps there might be a way for her to promote school choice. If she’s successful with that, she could then work on closing the Department down.
Trump has also made promises to the inner cities. They are in bad need of newer and safer facilities. That will take money. So the Education Dept will likely still have a role to play as he makes good on that campaign promise.
Conservatives should focus on getting rid of Common Core at the state level while ensuring the federal level earmarks no funds of any kind for Common Core. Conservatives should advocate sunsetting the Education Dept after it has served as a conduit to fund newer and safer school facilities in the inner cities.
Sounds like the rationale used to ‘convince’ Bush2 supporters that he wasn’t really wobbly.
I am all for getting rid of common core, but I really hope they do not start allowing “school choice.”
I’m a parent that sacrifices so my daughter can go to a private school. Half the reason to send your kid to a private school is to get them away from the kids whose parents do not value education enough to make sacrifices for it.
My daughter’s elementary school just started allowing some kids from disadvantaged communities to go there, with their tuition paid by the school. These kids have already started vandalizing the bathrooms and causing other problems.
Government keeps paying more and more for helping kids go to college, but nobody’s tuition ever really goes down does it?
So much for school choice and the DJT pledge to end CC. The more people he nominates, the more it look like a very mixed bag on what he initially pledged. There will be some very disappointed people if this keeps up.
I’m homeschooled and wish everyone could be.
Don’t know about this pick, but...if it’s a bad one, I’m willing to forgive it, seeing as Trump has spared us a Clinton presidency.
I never did expect he would be hard right on everything. He doesn’t have to be. Just steer the ship away from the reef and we can work on everything else.
How about the Dept of Education be abolished.
Noting that I gladly voted for Trump and do not regret doing so, please consider the following.
If patriots do not work with constitutionally low-information Trump to politically “force” the corrupt feds to surrender state powers that the feds have stolen from the states back to the states, then it is only a matter of time before we have another lawless president like Obama who works in cahoots with corrupt Congress to use those stolen state powers to oppress the states and the people.
Regarding the issue of this thread, the unconstitutionally big federal government should not have an Education Secretary imo. This is evidenced by the following excerpts.
Note that the first excerpt shows that President Thomas Jefferson had indicated that the states would need to expressly constitutionally delegate to the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate schooling purposes before the feds could actually do so — something that the states have never done.
“The great mass of the articles on which impost is paid is foreign luxuries, purchased by those only who are rich enough to afford themselves the use of them. Their patriotism would certainly prefer its continuance and application to the great purposes of the public education, roads, rivers, canals, and such other objects of public improvement as it may be thought proper to add to the constitutional enumeration of federal powers [emphases added].” —Thomas Jefferson: 6th Annual Message, 1806.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
"Our citizens have wisely formed themselves into one nation as to others and several States as among themselves. To the united nation belong our external and mutual relations; to each State, severally, the care of our persons, our property, our reputation and religious freedom [emphasis added]." --Thomas Jefferson: To Rhode Island Assembly, 1801
After patriots work with Trump to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers according to the Gibbons excerpt, then the states will probably find a tsunami of new revenues that they could use to make schools more user-friendly, along with improving many other things.
“”I would have preferred Michelle Rhee””
The Florida anti-common core group specifically does not want: “we fear President-Elect Trump may nominate a pro-Common Core Secretary of Education like Tony Bennett, Michelle Rhee, or Gerard Robinson”
“”That’s the Amway...””
I was going to ask if she’s from the Amway De Voss’s or ??? Both for my question and the correctness of spelling/punctuation??
Who was the gal from DC who was talked about as a pick? Wasn’t it for this appointment or was that different? She sounded real good to me...
Sure hope someone is keeping tabs on all these names. Wouldn’t do to appoint someone to a post that’s already been offered elsewhere. Glad I’m not in charge.
Saul Anuzis @sanuzis 14m14 minutes ago
@BetsyDeVos FACT: She has never supported Common Core nor does she. She has been a part of orgs that do, but she does not support.
https://twitter.com/sanuzis/status/801496686178619392
Saul Anuzis @sanuzis
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I thought I read this info somewhere else but confirmed on wikipedia. Her brother is Erik Prince, yes that Erik Prince, founder of Blackwater. Interesting that Erik Prince came out of seclusion and made a pronouncement on November 4 that the NYPD was ready to make arrests because of info found on the Weiner computers. It was posted here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3489133/posts
There might be undercurrents on this nomination that we haven’t considered?
What happened to Michelle Rhee?
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