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NJ Transit barring engineers with sleep apnea until condition is treated
News12 New Jersey ^ | November 21, 2016

Posted on 11/22/2016 2:13:50 AM PST by SMGFan

Federal regulators are warning railroad agencies nationwide to watch out for sleep apnea in train engineers. It comes after learning last week that the engineer in the fatal Hoboken train crash has the condition. The Federal Railroad Administration says it will issue a safety advisory this week for all railroads to screen and treat workers with sleep apnea.

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1 posted on 11/22/2016 2:13:50 AM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

I crashed a minivan into someone’s yard before I was fully diagnosed and treated.


2 posted on 11/22/2016 2:15:12 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: SMGFan

Given our current disability mania, I am confident this will become another “protected class” of employees.


3 posted on 11/22/2016 2:15:14 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: SMGFan

Don’t you have to be asleep in order to experience apnea?


4 posted on 11/22/2016 2:16:32 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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Yes, but having sleep apnea means that you are not sleeping soundly and are subject to taking "micro naps" that you are unaware of.

My husband has it and, before CPAP, would drop off at the drop of a hat and never know it.

Most people have warning signs that they are becoming sleepy, he was so sleep deprived that he would not have any warning signals.

Thank goodness he never did that while driving.

5 posted on 11/22/2016 2:23:35 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: raybbr

maybe they mean narcolipsy (not sure i spelled correctly) where you can fall asleep unexpectedly?


6 posted on 11/22/2016 2:24:34 AM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

what do you m san your husband would “drop off”?

fall asleep fro a period of time?


7 posted on 11/22/2016 2:27:10 AM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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To: b4me
Fall asleep for about 5 to 30 seconds.

Because the times were so short he was not aware it was happening.

That and his stopping breathing at night was what made me drag him to the doctor kicking and screaming.

Sleep test confirmed he was stopping breathing 38 times an hour.

Every time that happens you come "awake" to start breathing again so you never go fully asleep. You live in a fog of constant sleep deprivation and your body tries to adjust by sending you into a micro nap when ever the demand becomes to great.

8 posted on 11/22/2016 2:42:42 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: SMGFan

Probably a good idea. I knew a guy who had it, and before he was treated, he would fall asleep within 10 seconds of sitting down. Not kidding.


9 posted on 11/22/2016 2:49:32 AM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: SMGFan

I’ve been diagnosed (after a full night “Sleep Study”) with sleep apnea. While I had none of the obvious symptoms listed on their questionnaire before treatment, after they put me on the CPAP machine, I had most of the symptoms.

I tried it several times for a week at a time. They adjusted the programming & even gave me the “smart” CPAP machine.

I finally told them that “Who needs waterboarding? Just put the prisoner on this CPAP and he’ll talk after a week!”

(BTW, my problem is not the mask - I’ve flown using an oxygen mask with no problems at all.)


10 posted on 11/22/2016 2:54:15 AM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: BwanaNdege

Your humidity was set too high.


11 posted on 11/22/2016 2:55:34 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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In the mean time I looked it up. it said with Sleep apnea it cold cause a person to be awake but unresponsive to what was going on around them for time length you mentioned, because elf the poor quality of sleep at night.

Earlier this year I was under much stress not sleeping well and would jolt awake at night literally sit right up some times, sometimes it wasn’t so severe but when i woke suddenly I’d wonder if I had not been breathing and “my internal back up generator” kicked in and startled me awake. (thank God!) It really messed me up for daytime and being alert. Dr even did cardiac exam to be sure it wasn’t heart.

Glad your husband got checked out and taking care of himself :)

I was able to resolve some of the stress, eat better and restructure my hours before sleep to help me get better sleep.


12 posted on 11/22/2016 2:57:23 AM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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Glad you were able to get your sleep back to normal.

I am having trouble myself because of a cough that does not seem to want to go away.

I get up, have a cup of hot tea with honey and can go back to sleep for a couple of hours.

It is really messing me up.

Sleep, until you chronically are missing it you have no idea how precious it is.

13 posted on 11/22/2016 3:11:16 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I also had sleep apnea for several years. I remember my sleep
test-the person in charge of the sleep room diagnosed it shortly after I fell asleep. She put me on a CPAP and I had
the best six hours of sleep in many years. I have been on a CPAP for about ten years-it saved my life.

The only regret I have: I can no longer blame apnea for falling asleep during boring committee meetings.


14 posted on 11/22/2016 4:07:25 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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The only regret I have: I can no longer blame apnea for falling asleep during boring committee meetings.

Sure you can. Just tell them the drone of the speaker's voice sounds exactly like your CPAP and it triggers you to go to sleep. :)

15 posted on 11/22/2016 4:15:46 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Brilliant answer. LOL!!


16 posted on 11/22/2016 4:23:08 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Harmless: Are you by any means on medication for high blood pressure? I ask because I had an annoying cough that started all of a sudden. Turns out the blood pressure medicine was doing it. I switch medicine and it went away. Good luck


17 posted on 11/22/2016 4:33:15 AM PST by burghguy
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To: raybbr
Don’t you have to be asleep in order to experience apnea?

Technically speaking, people with sleep apnea never really achieve restorative sleep.

Sleep apnea is a common disorder in which you have one or more pauses in breathing or shallow breaths while you sleep. Breathing pauses can last from a few seconds to minutes. They may occur 30 times or more an hour. Sleep apnea is typically associated with loud snoring or choking sounds. Not everyone who snores as sleep apnea, but everyone who has sleep apnea snores and/or makes "choking" noises while they sleep.

In my case, I was diagnosed after mentally blacking out (but appearing physically awake and functional) while driving my son and family to a college visit 18 months ago now. I mentally "blacked out" for some 20 minutes while driving, yet carried on a conversation with my then wife at the time and appeared awake.

I suddenly "came to" and asked when we passed a specific point on our trip, to which the wife (at the time..) said "twenty minutes ago." Realizing I'd experienced a mental lapse, I pulled over and we changed drivers immediately.

A week later I was having a sleep study performed and learned I woke up 84 times an hour while choking. I saw the video of it too. It was pretty horrific. I had no idea. Technically speaking, I never really "slept."

Been on a cpap machine for the last @18 months now and I feel better, better mental concentration and I eat alot less and lost a pretty good chunk of weight. One of the common side effects of sleep apnea is weight gain. People with sleep apnea tend to eat 30% more calories/day than people without it due to trying to keep energy levels up during the day and being "too tired" to exercise. I've lost 35 pounds.

18 posted on 11/22/2016 4:58:09 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SMGFan
My dad rode with a friend to a sports event some years ago, and about a half hour into the drive dad realized the driver wan't talking and he looked over only to see him asleep. The guy suddenly snaps awake and keeps driving like nothing happened. Dad went into his patented "WTF" mode, and the guy tells him nonchalantly that he has narcolepsy and this happens all the time. Dad always drove after that, and marveled for years how the guy could just click off like he did.

(Highway 3 across Iowa should be avoided by people with sleep disorders. From Edgewood to Le Mars, it is the highway equivalent of chloroform.)

Mr. niteowl77

19 posted on 11/22/2016 5:06:10 AM PST by niteowl77 (Don't need no Bushes. Don't need no Clintons. Don't need no fooling around.)
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To: SMGFan
I have been on Bipap (two-way Cpap) for close to ten years now. I had all the classic symptoms and came close one time of a potential fatal accident if it wasn't for the wife yelling at me and braked in time. It is a real problem and has mainly to do with the size of the passage in your throat, not medications etc.
When I went for my sleep study, I lasted about 3 hours before the tech came in and put a Cpap mask on me. I stopped breathing several times for extended periods of time.
Since I've been using the mask, I am a totally different person AND I'm not dropping the remote all the time. LOL. The mask is uncomfortable at times but you get use to it because you know how life will be without it. Just my two cents :D
20 posted on 11/22/2016 5:09:30 AM PST by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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