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Obama Admits He "Can't Pardon" Snowden Before A Trial - Sorry, Hillary
Zerohedge ^ | Nov 19, 2016 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 11/20/2016 10:37:49 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian

After everyone from Jesse Jackson, to the terrified mainstream media to prominent Congressional Democrats have called upon Obama to issue a blanket pardon for Hillary Clinton, he finally admitted that it's not possible to pardon someone who hasn't yet stood trial for a crime. And while Obama was referencing a potential pardon of Edward Snowden with his comments, one could assume that the law should be applied the same way for all U.S. citizens.

I can't pardon somebody who hasn't gone before a court and presented themselves, so that's not something that I would comment on at this point. I think that Mr. Snowden raised some legitimate concerns. How he did it was something that did not follow the procedures and practices of our intelligence community. If everybody took the approach that I make my own decisions about these issues, then it would be very hard to have an organized government or any kind of national security system.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; obama; pardon
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To: CIB-173RDABN
He's negotiating the price. They have a mountain of cash and he wants to set up his own tax dodging slush trust fund.
21 posted on 11/20/2016 10:55:38 AM PST by BipolarBob (Hillary "Elect me and every Tuesday will be Soylent Green day!".)
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To: bgill

Nixon had no pending criminal case when he resigned. Ford pardoned him.


22 posted on 11/20/2016 10:55:40 AM PST by DesertRhino (November 8, America's Brexit!!!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I really hope Trump follows through and gets that effin’ bitch indicted. Look at the extreme danger we faced: We came THIS close to having a multiple FELON as POTUS! And she IS a felon, just because we have an extremely corrupt Justice dept. doesn’t mean she isn’t. A message has to be sent - ALL corruption must be dealt with severely because THAT is the greatest threat to our freedom. Her election would have legitimized corruption and she would have went to town, this country would have been OVER. We must NEVER find ourselves in that same situation again so he has to send that message. Get-her-butt-indicted ASAP.


23 posted on 11/20/2016 10:56:26 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Unbelievable. He is just so totally wrong but I hope he keeps that view and Hillary is left unprotected.


24 posted on 11/20/2016 10:57:28 AM PST by doug from upland (time to bring down the Clinton money laundering foundation)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

He has to pardon her so he is never called to testify. He must keep hidden what he has done.


25 posted on 11/20/2016 10:59:00 AM PST by doug from upland (time to bring down the Clinton money laundering foundation)
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To: DesertRhino

I don’t think he wants to pardon her, he doesn’t own her any favors and his is a lost cause. She lost the election and ruined his “legacy” so why should he do her any favors? She was a disaster as Secretary, made him look bad and now she lost the election on him plus I don’t think he likes her. I’m betting he’s going to let her sink. GOOD!


26 posted on 11/20/2016 10:59:53 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon.)
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To: bgill

Only federal crimes, he has no say so about violation of individual states statutes. Even if he were to pardon her, any crime she committed against the laws of NY could still be prosecuted.


27 posted on 11/20/2016 11:00:12 AM PST by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Nixon was pardoned before trial.


28 posted on 11/20/2016 11:01:21 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Lorianne
was Nixon ever on trial...

Nixon's trial was imminent. What Ford basically did with his impressive documuent (and unconstitutional imho) on White House letterhead was imply that he'd be pardoned in any event since Ford would still be President so don't waste your time, and no one ever called his bluff in a court of law or in Congress. Instant precedent, just add water.
29 posted on 11/20/2016 11:01:35 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Morpheus2009

If he pardons Hillary, there presumably won’t be an investigation, and discovery can not be made of 0bama’s involvement in Hillary’s email scandal; that he knew full well she was using a private server for top secret state business and he even participated in the crime. True or not, anyone?


30 posted on 11/20/2016 11:01:36 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("A is A. A thing is what it is.")
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Let’s not be stupid Mr. Obama. Just drop the charges.


31 posted on 11/20/2016 11:04:28 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: 17th Miss Regt

There’s probably zero chance that Trump will go after Obama for anything. Obama is hanging Hillary out to dry. Maybe this is part of a future rebuilding for the Democrats, with the deconstruction of the Clintons. Or maybe as others have suggested, he has basically told the Clintons to clam up, and he will pardon her.


32 posted on 11/20/2016 11:05:01 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Øbongo has never been correct before so I’m not surprised when he misspeaks now.


33 posted on 11/20/2016 11:05:43 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The Heritage Foundation - and precedent - disagree. What he might mean that it is not politic to do so; best to get the evidence out and understand just what is being pardoned here.

But the silver gold platinum lining to his statement is that sHrillary will be subject to the same!!!

Afternoon weather report for Chappequa: ashtray hail, strong gusty words, and lamp tornadoes.


34 posted on 11/20/2016 11:08:10 AM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #MyPresident)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

I do not think Obama wants to dip his dck further to pardon Hillary when he is involved and would end up being the one indicted


35 posted on 11/20/2016 11:11:14 AM PST by lavaroise (s)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

This isn’t hard to figure out

All of Obama’s Muslim buddies gave Hillary Million and Millions of Dollars for special favors once she was Elected President, She LOST, they are PISSED OFF about all the Money they wasted for NOTHING. They are ALL LEANING ON OBAMA for some sort of Retribution, so He floats the idea that a PARDON is Out of the Question to appease his Muslim Buddies.

The question then becomes, What do they have that they are Holding over Obama’s Head to get him to do their bidding???


36 posted on 11/20/2016 11:11:51 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: bgill

Barry is probably waiting for a pallet of euros to be delivered before he acts. This statement is just a little nudge for the clintons to get their stuff together. I’m sure Marc Rich’s first offer to buy a pardon was a little short and fell on deaf ears as well.


37 posted on 11/20/2016 11:17:07 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: Texas Eagle

>>He’s going to pardon her.<<

Either way, the Clinton’s are done. Hillary’s future prospects for POTUS will never ever ever happen.


38 posted on 11/20/2016 11:17:36 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Zero Hedge doesn’t have the best record for getting details right.

I believe there are quotes from Obama about an established pardon procedure, and that he would expect procedures to be followed.

Obama comes from a legal background where Ford’s pardon of Nixon is considered illegitimate, so it’s tough for him to use the same sort of pardon himself.

The conditions of Ford’s pardon of Nixon were rare enough that research was undertaken and legal opinions sought even though the long-standing Ex Parte Garland ruling is clearcut.

Pardon without prosecution is, and should be, very rare. Prosecuting Snowden would not cause national trauma, while prosecuting a president certainly would. Secretary of State? We’ll see!


39 posted on 11/20/2016 11:18:03 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“And while Obama was referencing a potential pardon of Edward Snowden with his comments, one could assume that the law should be applied the same way for all U.S. citizens”

And that’s where this whole piece falls apart.


40 posted on 11/20/2016 11:18:20 AM PST by Tallguy
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