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Cruz and Trump Meet in NYC
Fox News - The Five | 11/15/16 | be-baw

Posted on 11/15/2016 2:50:08 PM PST by be-baw

Just reported.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cruz; cruz2016; nyc; tedcruz; trump; trump2016; trumptransition
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To: House Atreides

Probably. My comment was made in jest so don’t think I meant it literally. Given the fact Cruz was extremely late to even recognize Trump’s candidacy, a bit of razzing is in order here. It certainly doesn’t mean they cannot find some common ground, but I will believe it when I see it- particularly when it comes to border security and immigration.


81 posted on 11/15/2016 3:32:23 PM PST by Navin Johnson
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To: doug from upland

Ted Cruz has time to gain more experience in a number of areas that need polishing up before going on the Supreme Court. The first SC Justice that Trump supports should not be Cruz. Besides, we need smart people in the senate and Cruz should finish his term where he is needed. Time will tell if he is worthy of a seat on the SC.


82 posted on 11/15/2016 3:32:40 PM PST by mountainfolk
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To: Nifster; All

“Head of DOJ”

Does Cruz have any prosecutorial experience?


83 posted on 11/15/2016 3:34:25 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: JayGalt; ATOMIC_PUNK

Jay,

Many thanks !

That’s why I asked atomic punk for a link....


84 posted on 11/15/2016 3:35:02 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Navin Johnson
Your reading comprehension needs some improvement.

So your comment wasn't meant to infer that Cruz crawled to Trump and begged to be included?

85 posted on 11/15/2016 3:36:29 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: ri4dc

Democratic 51 20 40.82% 61,575,307

47.74% $26,163,337,263

Republican 51 29 59.18% 60,735,243

47.09% $13,002,259,668


86 posted on 11/15/2016 3:37:06 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Nifster
The only source, I've seen is a daily[?] update document by the Cook Political Report that has a breakdown of the votes.

Here is the updated spreadsheet

87 posted on 11/15/2016 3:41:09 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: proust

-—The days of lecturing us on how to regard Cruz are long gone. Try and contain it.-—

Well, if you wanted a lecture, I can certainly give you one...but I don’t want to waste mine or your time.
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I would suggest you follow the lead of our President-Elect and see Cruz as a potential ally and not an enemy...


88 posted on 11/15/2016 3:41:57 PM PST by Popman
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Presidential Election Results: Donald J. Trump Wins
NYT - Up To Date Counts




No, Donald Trump is not beating Hillary Clinton in the popular vote

Donald Trump unquestionably won the 2016 presidential election, but he is trailing in the popular vote.

That might come as a surprise to people who Googled the phrase "Final Election Count" as late as 2 p.m. on Nov. 14. The first entry in Google’s news category -- above those from news links to the Washington Post and Politico -- was a Nov. 12 post (updated the following day) from a little-known site called 70news.

"Final election 2016 numbers: Trump won both popular (62.9M-62.2M) and Electoral College Votes (306-232)," the post’s headline said.

Further down the page, the site’s anonymous author wrote, "To all the liberal loonies still rioting because you claim Trump did not get the popular vote, get your meds now and prepare to be shocked because the finals results are in. Trump got 306 Electoral College vote while Hillary Clinton got 232. For #PopularVote: #Trump: 62,972,226 #Clinton: 62,277,750."

According to its Facebook page, the site launched in August and seeks to "share news that matters to you. What liberal media will try to hide, we will uncover."

Here’s a screenshot of how that particular Google search displayed the 70news post -- prominently.

But while it’s absolutely true that Trump won the Electoral College vote -- which is the only thing that matters in determining who moves into the White House on Jan. 20 -- he is not leading in the popular vote.

The most comprehensive vote-tracking analysis is published by David Wasserman of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. As of 2:30 p.m. on Nov. 14, according to Wasserman’s calculations, Clinton led Trump by 784,748 votes -- specifically, 61,422,098 for Clinton, 60,637,350 for Trump, and 6,691,311 for other candidates.

Other tallies showed similar results. CNN at that time showed a Clinton-over-Trump margin of 668,059, while the Associated Press had a margin of 668,483. (Different media outlets may report different numbers at a given time because of delays in obtaining and uploading new data.)

Here’s CNN’s tally by mid-day Nov. 14, showing Clinton ahead by half a percentage point.

And given the votes left to be counted, it’s almost impossible to imagine that Trump will gain back ground in the coming days.

That’s because California -- a state where Clinton is beating Trump by a 62 percent-33 percent margin -- has the most votes still to count of any state. Nearly a week after the election, CNN estimates that only 70 percent of the California vote had been counted. In addition, only 87 percent of the vote in Oregon had been counted; Clinton beat Trump 52 percent-41 percent there. And Washington state had counted only 87 percent of its vote; Clinton beat Trump there by a 55 percent-38 percent margin.

So it’s entirely plausible that Clinton could end up winning the popular vote by 1 million to 1.5 million votes -- roughly two or three times the popular-vote margin assembled by Al Gore when he lost the Electoral College, and the presidency, to George W. Bush in 2000.

By Nov. 14, the Washington Post and Business Insider both posted articles questioning why Google still had the 70news article at the top of their news category. A Google representative said the company was looking into the issue.

And on Nov. 14, 70news posted an update: "Anyone asking where I got the figures, it was from twitter posts. … If I’m wrong, I won’t hesitate to change the numbers. It’s the job of the establishment media to tell the people the final numbers when it’s out there already." (The Twitter post cited by 70News was this one.)

But as of 3 p.m. on Nov. 14, 70news still had the article up.

Our ruling

Social media was abuzz with the claim that the "final election 2016 numbers" showed that Trump had won won both the popular and Electoral College contests.

Trump certainly won the Electoral College vote, and as a result, he will become president. But he clearly trails in the popular vote. As of this writing, Clinton is ahead by nearly 800,000 votes, a margin that is likely to expand further as late returns trickle in from California, Oregon and Washington state, all of which are strong Clinton states. We rate the claim Pants on Fire.


89 posted on 11/15/2016 3:45:02 PM PST by onyx (CELEBRATE PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP'S VICTORY DONATE MONTHLY or JOIN CLUB 300!)
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To: Tax-chick

Ah.

Well, Hamilton is a lot cooler than David French. You should check it out!!!!


90 posted on 11/15/2016 3:48:46 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I had it on in the background but was just listening here and there and didn’t see, but I thought I heard KG say that Melissa Francis was there today instead of Dana. If so, she’s on Outnumbered from time to time and has a show on FBN. Is this here:

http://www.foxbusiness.com/person/f/melissa-francis.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_Francis


91 posted on 11/15/2016 3:49:31 PM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and Protect our Troops)
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To: be-baw

Yes he does


92 posted on 11/15/2016 3:49:38 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: MagUSNRET

I would say the exact opposite.


93 posted on 11/15/2016 3:50:10 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Theoria

Thanks


94 posted on 11/15/2016 3:50:10 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: NEMDF

Allies are always better than enemies.


95 posted on 11/15/2016 3:53:22 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Seattle Conservative

That’s the one. Thanks!


96 posted on 11/15/2016 3:54:10 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: mtrott

I’d really like to see Cruz on the Supreme Court. I’d like to see him at DOJ, too. I’d like Sessions at Defense. Sarah Palin at Interior. I thought Rudy would have been great at DOJ, but the scuttlebutt is he does not want it.


97 posted on 11/15/2016 3:56:30 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Theoria

They don’t match the numbers you quoted


98 posted on 11/15/2016 3:56:33 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster; ATOMIC_PUNK

I think you were talking to ATOMIC_PUNK, about the issue on numbers.


99 posted on 11/15/2016 3:59:36 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: jjotto

That would be great. If they count them all, especially military then Trump will have the popular vote as well, doesn’t need it but it puts wagging tongues to sleep.

I am glad to hear all votes are counted in all states; it always struck me as particularly galling that our service men & women are disenfranchised.


100 posted on 11/15/2016 3:59:57 PM PST by JayGalt
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