Posted on 11/13/2016 8:27:56 AM PST by Brilliant
What do we say to Californians who want to secede? Most often, I hear, "Good. Do it," or some variant thereof. But that is way too flippant, and there are much better potential responses.
Another appropriate response might be, "That wasn't the deal. The deal was that you would move to Canada."
But even that misses the major lesson that should be learned from this election.
The truth is that the people who elected Donald Trump as President spent the last 8 years suffering through Obama. There was little talk of secession, and certainly no organized effort to secede by any state. Those who talked about secession were quickly ridiculed, often by those who are now advocating California secession.
We suffered through Obama. We suffered through the slow economy. We suffered through the Obamacare lies and then failure. We suffered through riots and rising crime. Now the California liberals can suffer through Trump.
As Obama said, "I won." But now, Trump can say the same, and California must accept the result, just as we were compelled to do in the case of Obama.
And that is not merely a way of saying that it is time for payback. It is simply what it means to be a nation. We are one nation. Not two. Not more.
In a democratic republic, the representatives of the people are elected by a majority of electors. The minority must accept the result. It is impossible for everyone to have their own way. That is the nature of government. It is, in fact, one of the great problems with government, and is one of the reasons that the Founders built this nation on federalism.
There was once a time when states had considerable rights. There was once a time when the federal government was small, and the state government was the primary governmental influence in our lives.
That day has passed, and it has passed largely because of the political activism of progressives in California and other very liberal states, who wanted to substitute federal power for state power. If our country were still run primarily by the states, as conservatives would have liked, then we would not be having this conversation. The progressives created this situation. Now they must deal with it or be branded hypocrites.
I see that the major California politicians are vowing that they will make sure that irrespective what happens in Washington, California will continue to welcome illegal immigrants, and follow liberal policies that have been rejected by the nation as a whole.
How is it, then, that over the last 8 years, we in the rest of the United States have been compelled to accept the left-wing policies of Barack Obama and the Democratic Party elite? No one told us that we had the option. When the issue was tested in the courts, the courts ruled that the states must yield to the policies of Mr. Obama and the liberal elite because they were in control of the US government. Yet those same liberals claim the right to ignore federal directive now that they are no longer in power.
No, it is much too generous to give the Californians the option of secession. The "do it" response is just too lenient. They need to be taught a lesson, and who better to teach that lesson than they themselves? By telling them simply "We won," we are only holding them to their own standard of fairness. They created this situation. Now they must deal with it.
Tell us how we can help you leave, ... the sooner the better!
Please don’t ever put us down as a reference, and don’t ever think of coming back!
They are welcome to leave as long as they take the 10 trillion in debt Obama racked up because of them with them!
No U.S. funding at all. They have to take care of themselves and we know how long it takes runaway teenagers to call their parents once they run out of money, food, shelter, etc...: )
So is it a Lena Dunham or Miley Cirus type secession?
I say make them fight for it. Put down the weed, march a hundred miles, camp in the desert, and get shot at.
Lets see how committed they are when they have to fight for what they believe.
My response? You’re welcome to leave anytime you like but the real estate belongs to us.
Go ahead. And we will build a wall around it and Mexico. The illegals will all self deport to their new “paradise” and CA can become the newest failed 3rd world state created by the Democrats
"Adios."
That said, I know people who are stuck in California i.e. not wealthy and that is where their job is. Ergo they should run a line exactly west to east that dissects Calabasas in the middle and runs from the Pacific to Arizona. All who want to secede can move south of that line. That part of the US can go anywhere. My guess is Mexico would not take them.
The rest of California can stay or go at the citizens' whim. Most might want to stay.
I agree with all your sentiments, I live in upstate NY. It’s the same story. Productive people are leaving, I don’t blame them, ever increasing burden on those who remain.
Gotta keep the Salton Sea area and Twenty-Nine Palms too! It’s SO beautiful there. I LOVE the desert.
Then blow the aqueduct feeding LA to replenish the Salton Sea and let the desert BLOOM!
1 out of every 10 people in California is illegal. Think about that. If you go to the mall every 10th person you walk by is illegal. Guess that’s why I don’t go to malls. lol
Exactly. Preservation of the onion was what the Civil War was all about.
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“Exchange all non-military federal assets in the seceding territory to the Chinese for their debt holdings.”
love it !
Even better for CALexit
This sentiment does not square with what the genuine expression of American political philosophy: “That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government
That died with Lincoln.
When the western states cut off the water supply, those CA farms will shrivel up fast.
The vast majority of California is still republican if you look at the county level maps. It would be even more red if you broke it down to precinct level. Split the state into 3 partsnand let the one liberal state go, (with a per-capita portion of the national debt). It would be a win-win scenero.
Yup!!
What’s their share of the $20 trillion debt ?
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