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To: kevcol

He’s not going to “sue his accusers” because he’s a public figure UNLESS he can show that deliberate lies were published with MALICE, then he has a case.


4 posted on 10/22/2016 9:45:02 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Id certainly say they were deliberate lies published with malice.


8 posted on 10/22/2016 9:47:33 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: Jim 0216

Do you seriously think these were not deliberate, malicious lies? You truly believe these women lived with their tales for decades, right up until weeks before the election?

I am pretty sure he can prove easily both that they were lies and that they were published with malice, i.e., the intent to destroy his reputation and thus to deprive him of a fair election.


14 posted on 10/22/2016 9:51:44 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Jim 0216

Trump is currently a private individual in the public eye running for a public office he does not (yet) hold - libel does indeed apply.


15 posted on 10/22/2016 9:52:05 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Jim 0216

Good points! Let’s not get carried away with exacting revenge just for it’s own sake. You need a legitimate case, or you are wasting your time, money and credibility.


17 posted on 10/22/2016 9:52:47 AM PDT by lee martell
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Hmmm...making unsubstantiated/false sexual assault claims, coordinated & launched by Hillary operatives, in the closing weeks of a presidential campaign is pretty much the definition of malicious.
21 posted on 10/22/2016 9:55:36 AM PDT by nickedknack
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To: Jim 0216
He’s not going to “sue his accusers” because he’s a public figure UNLESS he can show that deliberate lies were published with MALICE, then he has a case.

I'm quite sure he was talking about the actual women themselves.........

22 posted on 10/22/2016 9:56:06 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (If only Hillary had married OJ instead......)
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To: Jim 0216
He’s not going to “sue his accusers” because he’s a public figure UNLESS he can show that deliberate lies were published with MALICE, then he has a case.

I don't think it will be hard to prove malice.

All of the accusations were timed to undermine his campaign. That's practically the definition of malice.

27 posted on 10/22/2016 10:00:59 AM PDT by justlurking
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To: Jim 0216

Well is it malice enough to go public when victim is running for election? What other non malicious motive could they have?


29 posted on 10/22/2016 10:03:04 AM PDT by amihow
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To: Jim 0216

They weren’t?


51 posted on 10/22/2016 10:16:58 AM PDT by curth
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To: Jim 0216

An email from WikiLeaks, showing Gloria Allred, setting up the accusations as far back as May, will help...

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 11:25 AM

To: Vaughn, Jordan

Subject: RE: Blast Language - Approval Needed

Please delete the word “fellow”. Also, his position on equal pay is unclear. I think you should delete that. Is there anything you can substitute for that, e.g. demeaning treatment of women in the work place or sexual harassment in the work place?


54 posted on 10/22/2016 10:21:18 AM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: Jim 0216

Probably provable, if accusations are false. Agree that media outlets are exposed (malice can easily be proven) and all who are sued will have to spend time and money to defend themselves. I expect that the lawsuits will be very public and brand damage to media companies could be staggering to public companies.


68 posted on 10/22/2016 10:48:30 AM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: Jim 0216

Malice and intent, when attempting to destroy a person’s life.


73 posted on 10/22/2016 10:51:37 AM PDT by dvan (Send Them Home!Napolatono)
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To: Jim 0216

If they lied and were motivated by politics to do so; that established malice.


77 posted on 10/22/2016 10:54:01 AM PDT by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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To: Jim 0216
"He’s not going to “sue his accusers” because he’s a public figure UNLESS he can show that deliberate lies were published with MALICE, then he has a case."

A very tall order; proving that something didn't happen is virtually impossible, unless they have a tape of one of the women saying something like, "I'm going to make up a story about Trump sexually assaulting me because I support Hillary Clinton."
85 posted on 10/22/2016 11:02:18 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Jim 0216
He’s not going to “sue his accusers” because he’s a public figure UNLESS he can show that deliberate lies were published with MALICE, then he has a case.

Sometimes you sue, knowing you may not win, to make it clear that you are not afraid of discovery or the process playing out. As long as there is no summary judgment, it will be more than a minor inconvenience. Normally the bad guys abuse the system in this manner, Trump is using it to protect his name and to turn off the spigot.
108 posted on 10/22/2016 11:55:37 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Jim 0216

“He’s not going to “sue his accusers” because he’s a public figure UNLESS he can show that deliberate lies were published with MALICE, then he has a case.”

Anyone can sue anyone else at any time for practically anything, whether they have a case or not. Just because Trump might not win due to a technicality, he potentially could create havoc for this accusers and at least cause the truth to come out, and certainly part of that would be attempting to prove malice.


111 posted on 10/22/2016 12:21:13 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Jim 0216; lilypad

“Actual malice” in defamation law has nothing to do with ill will. It is defined as publishing something (other than parody) that one knows is false, or publishing with reckless disregard for the truthfulness of the publication. “Reckless” is a jury question.


112 posted on 10/22/2016 12:23:59 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jim 0216

I think there is a chance that money exchanged hands on a few of them and if that is the case he can sue and win if he proves it.


120 posted on 10/22/2016 12:35:48 PM PDT by PCPOET7
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He will blow through their collective entire net worth on day 2 of the lawsuit. If Gloria wants to put up a few hundred thousand each to defend these lying hoes, I’ll be surprised.


122 posted on 10/22/2016 12:36:47 PM PDT by anton
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To: Jim 0216

“He’s not going to “sue his accusers” because he’s a public figure UNLESS he can show that deliberate lies were published with MALICE, then he has a case.”

The intent was to destroy Trump and install a corrupt evil hellbitch as POTUS! That is about as malicious as can be!


127 posted on 10/22/2016 12:54:16 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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