Posted on 10/21/2016 6:28:21 AM PDT by C19fan
A Russian carrier fleet which passed through the English Channel today deployed heavily-armed guards to deter anyone approaching the warships.
A number of guards, equipped with AK-74 assault rifles and heavy machine guns were spotted on the flight deck of the Admiral Kuznetsov as it passed by the White Cliffs of Dover.
The powerful fleet was ordered to pass through the Channel, which is one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world, in single file.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Yes, but all those moments will be lost in time...
Well, this is word-for-word Obama/Hillary policy on Syria. You will be voting Hillary to help out your Chechen terrorist friends operating in Syria? Hillary's headcutters need your support to kill more Christians and burn people alive in cages. Your vote counts.
Well, this is word-for-word Obama/Hillary policy on Syria.
You disingenuous/phony sack of ____. There isn't a single conservative leader who doesn't believe that the Assad regime is tyrannical.
Moreover, I've made it very clear that I don't trust a word coming from the O administration OR your friends, the Russians, as it was the O admin who bent over backwards appeasing Putin on such critical things as missile defense and nukes, including the Obama-Putin Iran nuke deal.
For example...
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Ted Cruz:
"We need a coherent plan to address both the specific crisis in Syria and the challenge posed more broadly by Putin's resurgent Russia.
The good news is that America still has options, if our leaders can summon the will to exercise them.
For starters, in Syria we can't double down on the failed strategies that have given Putin his opportunity to intervene.
We are now two years out from President Obama's proposed intervention after al-Assad used chemical weapons against his own people. ..."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/opinions/cruz-syria-putin/index.html
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On the [Oct 5, 2016] debate stage last week, [Mike] Pence said that “provocations by Russia need to be met with American strength. And if Russia chooses to be involved and continue, I should say, to be involved in this barbaric attack on civilians in Aleppo, the United States of America should be prepared to use military force to strike military targets of the Assad regime.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/mike-pence-syria-stance-martha-raddatz-229535
That's what you SAY. But you support their policies in Syria anyway. The way you describe Russians is more applicable to YOURSELF.
Go screw yourself, you phony Putin-loving POS. You’re too dishonest to have any sort of conversation with.
What a Chechen. Here's what you said: "When they say one thing, it’s a pretty safe bet that they really mean or desire another." LOL. So you "don't trust a word coming from the O administration", yet you SUPPORT THEM in Syria.
"Romanian intelligence defector Ion Mihai Pacepa alleged that an operation for the removal of chemical weapons was prepared by the Soviet Union for Libya, and that he was told over thirty years ago by Romanian President Nicolae Ceausescu, KGB chairman Yury Andropov, and later, Yevgeny Primakov, about the existence of a similar plan for Iraq.
It is 'perfectly obvious', wrote Pacepa, that the Russian GRU agency helped Saddam Hussein to destroy, hide, or transfer his chemical weapons prior to the American invasion of Iraq in 2003. 'After all, Russia helped Saddam get his hands on them in the first place.'[13]
John Loftus, director of The Intelligence Summit, said in the November 16, 2007 issue of FrontPage Magazine that many documents from Iraq point to WMD being transferred to other countries such as Syria: 'As stated in more detail in my full report, the British, Ukrainian and American secret services all believed that the Russians had organized a last minute evacuation of CW [chemical] and BW [biological] stockpiles from Baghdad to Syria.'
His researchers allegedly found a document ordering the concealment of nuclear weapons equipment in storage facilities under the Euphrates River a few weeks before the invasion.[14]"
A bill to strengthen sanctions against the Government of Syria, to enhance multilateral commitment to address the Government of Syria's threatening policies, to establish a program to support a transition to a democratically-elected government in Syria.
We need to focus our efforts not on trying to create friends, but on supporting our real ones, especially the Kurds in Iraq and Syria who have actually had success against ISIS."
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"We can redouble our efforts to develop the defensive weapons that neutralized the offensive Soviet threat -- particularly missile defense, which has seen a 25% budget reduction under Obama, according to an analysis from the conservative Heritage Foundation, and has been constrained by bad arms deals like New START.
We should not only move quickly to install the canceled interceptor sites Putin opposed in Poland and the Czech Republic, but also to develop the next generation of systems that will only increase his discomfiture.
These options do not entail a ground war in Syria, yet would effectively shake us free from the failed policies that have brought us to our current impasse.
These options set us on a new path that puts Putin on notice that the United States is reclaiming our traditional role as leader of the free world."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/opinions/cruz-syria-putin/index.html
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"I think it would be a mistake to get involved in the Syrian civil war. There have been voices in Washington eager for us to send our sons and daughters over to fight that civil war for some time. I haven't been one of them. I think the touchstone of U.S. military policy should be protecting the national security of this country."
"What we're seeing Putin in Russia do is a direct response to the profound weakness of Obama over six and a half years.
Putin views Obama as weak, as ineffective, and frankly, as a laughingstock. And, as a result, he is moving in, he is invading his neighbors, like Ukraine, he's kidnapping Estonians, and he's moving into Syria to gain a stronger foothold in the Middle East."
“When Donald Trump and I observe that, as I’ve said, in Syria, in Iran, in Ukraine, that the small and bullying leader of Russia has been stronger on the world stage than this administration, that’s stating painful facts. That’s not an endorsement of Vladimir Putin — that’s an indictment of the weak and feckless leadership of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.”
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Also from the Oct 5, 2016 first VP debate...
QUIJANO (Moderator): I want to turn now to Syria. Two hundred fifty thousand people, 100,000 of them children, are under siege in Aleppo, Syria. Bunker buster bombs, cluster munitions, and incendiary weapons are being dropped on them by Russian and Syrian militaries. Does the U.S. have a responsibility to protect civilians and prevent mass casualties on this scale, Governor Pence?
PENCE: The United States of America needs to begin to exercise strong leadership to protect the vulnerable citizens and over 100,000 children in Aleppo. Hillary Clinton’s top priority when she became secretary of state was the Russian reset, the Russians reset.
After the Russian reset, the Russians invaded Ukraine and took over Crimea.
And the small and bullying leader of Russia is now dictating terms to the United States to the point where all the United States of America — the greatest nation on Earth — just withdraws from talks about a cease-fire while Vladimir Putin puts a missile defense system in Syria while he marshals the forces and begins — look, we have got to begin to lean into this with strong, broad-shouldered American leadership.
It begins by rebuilding our military. And the Russians and the Chinese have been making enormous investments in the military. We have the smallest Navy since 1916. We have the lowest number of troops since the end of the Second World War. We’ve got to work with Congress, and Donald Trump will, to rebuild our military and project American strength in the world.
But about Aleppo and about Syria, I truly do believe that what America ought to do right now is immediately establish safe zones, so that families and vulnerable families with children can move out of those areas, work with our Arab partners, real time, right now, to make that happen.
And secondly, I just have to tell you that the provocations by Russia need to be met with American strength.
And if Russia chooses to be involved and continue, I should say, to be involved in this barbaric attack on civilians in Aleppo, the United States of America should be prepared to use military force to strike military targets of the Assad regime to prevent them from this humanitarian crisis that is taking place in Aleppo.
There’s a broad range of other things that we ought to do, as well. We ought to deploy a missile defense shield to the Czech Republic and Poland which Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama pulled back on out of not wanting to offend the Russians back in 2009.
QUIJANO: Governor, your two minutes are up.
PENCE: We’ve just got to have American strength on the world stage. When Donald Trump becomes president of the United States, the Russians and other countries in the world will know they’re dealing with a strong American president.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/us/politics/vice-president-transcript.html
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PENCE: What we’re dealing with is the — you know, there’s an old proverb that says the Russian bear never dies, it just hibernates.
And the truth of the matter is, the weak and feckless foreign policy of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has awakened an aggression in Russia that first appeared a few years ago with their move in Georgia, now their move into Crimea, now their move into the wider Middle East.
And all the while, all we do is fold our arms and say we’re not having talks anymore.
To answer your question, we just need American strength. We need to — we need to marshal the resources of our allies in the region, and in the immediate, we need to act and act now to get people out of harm’s way.
Like tears in the rain....
Not really. The Kuznetsov Task Force has been through the English Channel on several occasions. The most recent was May 2014.
The Kuznetsov isn’t nuclear powered. The cruiser Peter the Great sailing with her is nuclear powered.
The planes are not props. On board they have both the Su-33 Flankers that have been updated with newer bombing systems and the new MiG-29K Fulcrums. They also have on board the new naval attack helos the Ka-52K Hokums. This is likely a combat deployment for Syria. Expect to see footage from the Russians flying them off the Kuznetsov for possible combat ops.
There was a time when Russian vessels such as these would end up on the bottom of the North Sea rather than parading triumphantly through the Straits of Dover.
How can we consider it promising that Mr. Trump seems to be so friendly with/toward Putin?
Well, as you may know I was very concerned about that myself and posted his troubling quotes regarding the KGB assassin/enemy of America. However, with the addition of Mike Pence to the team, I feel a lot better about the situation. Pence, like Ted Cruz, is very much on to Putin and his larger agenda on the world stage.
For both Pence and Cruz's comments on Putin, Syria, Eastern Europe and the O admin, see posts 109 and 110 right above.
Do you really think that a nice guy like Pence will be able to control Mr. Trump in his relations with Putin and other really bad guys.
Ah, yes, updated systems and new naval attack helos. Kind of like the Spanish civil war, a chance for everyone to try out their new toys and tactics.
I’m hoping that Trump’s previous flatterings of Putin were just talk. That his decision to go with a guy like Pence, who obviously knows the deal in regards to Russia and their big picture agenda, shows that he too gets it, despite outward appearances. At this point, what else is there? Can’t have that evil leftist *itch Hillary as president. That’s for sure.
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