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World Leaders Try to Ban Another Greenhouse Gas
scientificamerican.com ^ | Oct. 10, 2016 | Robynne Boyd

Posted on 10/10/2016 12:49:13 PM PDT by PROCON


Eliminating refrigerants known as HFCs could prevent a leap in global warming

After being directed for almost 30 years at substances that destroy ozone, the Montreal Protocol will for the first time target a group of greenhouse gases. Beginning today in Kigali, Rwanda, member states of the United Nations are finalizing the terms of what could be the largest commitment to reducing global warming since the Paris Agreement on climate last December.

Delegates are likely to take till the meeting’s final day on Oct. 14 to hammer out the knotty details of an amendment to the protocol. Ideally, the amendment will set the terms for a rapid phasedown of hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs), the most common of which is the refrigerant HFC-134a, which has 1,430 times more warming potential than carbon dioxide (CO2) over 100 yearsThe amendment would stop the manufacture of HFCs and then reduce their use over time.

“An ambitious amendment is the quickest and least expensive way to reduce the effects of climate change,” says Durwood Zaelke, president of the Institute for Governance and Sustainable Development, who has been a mainstay at ozone negotiations since almost the beginning of the 1987 treaty. He says a phasedown could prevent the equivalent of 100 to 200 billion tons of CO2 being released into the atmosphere by 2050. That prevention could avert half a degree Celsius of warming by the end of the century. Considering that the Paris Agreement’s goal is to keep global average temperature rise below 2 degree Celsius, an HFC ban offers a significant opportunity.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airconditioning; ban; climatechange; climatechangefraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; haiti; hfc; rwanda
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To: magna carta

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a giant nuclear furnace that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


41 posted on 10/10/2016 2:50:10 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Fiddlstix

The Crosley IcyBall

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42 posted on 10/10/2016 3:06:40 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: PROCON

Refrigeration is arguably one of the pillars of modern life. Food and medicine are completely dependent on it. Global warming alarmists are just repackaged Malthusian fanatics whose primary goal is reducing world population. Ever notice they, like their father Himmler, have no problem with ovens?


43 posted on 10/10/2016 3:20:02 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: Elderberry; All

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44 posted on 10/10/2016 3:55:09 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: antidisestablishment
Ever notice they, like their father Himmler, have no problem with ovens?

It looks like they want to place ovens under their regulatory control as well.

2016-09-02 Energy Conservation Program: Energy Conservation Standards for Residential Conventional Cooking Products; Supplemental notice of proposed rulemaking (SNOPR).

https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=EERE-2014-BT-STD-0005-0054

45 posted on 10/10/2016 4:04:44 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: kosciusko51

ROFL


46 posted on 10/10/2016 4:12:43 PM PDT by khelus
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To: PJammers
I was told I had to use R-134a because R-12 was burning a hole in the ozone?

And none of the climate freaks saw this coming? Yeah, right.

47 posted on 10/10/2016 4:52:58 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill TWITTER !! Kill FACEBOOK !! Free MILO !!)
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To: PROCON

>It seems I recall John Efin Kerry also wanting to eliminate our use of air conditioning or make it unbelievably expensive to use it.
>

Start w/ Congress and EVERY govt building, station, outhouse and doghouse (ESPECIALLY each/every elected govt persons house(s)\car(s)\etc.)....THEN we’ll pencil in the ‘talk’.


48 posted on 10/10/2016 6:15:28 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73

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49 posted on 10/10/2016 7:08:01 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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Screw the UN. So we'll have more rotting food and food-borne illness, due to phasing out HFCs and replacing them with . . . what?

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50 posted on 10/11/2016 4:01:38 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Just one of a basket of deplorables.)
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To: InsidiousMongo
Almost all cars newer than 1994 use HFC-134a (also known as R-134a IIRC). Banning this would require us to use alternatives which are more combustible in a vehicle’s AC system.

"They switched us over! Lotta people got blowed up real good!" /Billy Sol Hurok

51 posted on 10/11/2016 4:03:03 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Just one of a basket of deplorables.)
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To: kosciusko51

That would be my reaction.


52 posted on 10/11/2016 6:44:20 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Red Badger

>>>Ammonia works well...................<<<

Just what I was thinking...powered by an open flame: time to break out the vintage Servel?


53 posted on 10/11/2016 11:01:46 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!�)
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To: SandRat

I have one of those stored away in the basement, to go along with the stored, vintage gas powered Servel (which needs maintenance & repair). :-(
Hippies ruined the only building suitable for block ice storage, by gutting it to salvage lumber for other projects: it had 18” double wall construction.
As long as Corps of Engineers didn’t interfere, there’s a reservoir close by where ice could “easily” be harvested.


54 posted on 10/11/2016 11:15:33 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!�)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Even as you describe it’s condition, it’s worth GOOD mony. Call an antique dealer to see how much.


55 posted on 10/12/2016 5:18:30 AM PDT by SandRat ( (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?))
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To: ApplegateRanch
>>>Ammonia works well...................<<< Just what I was thinking...powered by an open flame: time to break out the vintage Servel?

They could use a stainless steel heat exchanger off the exhaust for the energy, or a second alternator for an electrical heating element.................

56 posted on 10/12/2016 6:33:43 AM PDT by Red Badger (YES, I'm Deplorable! I Deplore the entire Democrat Party!....................)
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To: ApplegateRanch

http://vintageservelrefrigerators.8k.com/HowItWorks.html


57 posted on 10/12/2016 6:35:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (YES, I'm Deplorable! I Deplore the entire Democrat Party!....................)
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To: PROCON

Not a problem. We’ll just all go back to ammonia. Suck on that, stupid hypocritical collectivist greenie weenies!


58 posted on 10/12/2016 8:51:38 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: kosciusko51

That’s EXACTLY what I first thought.

Wasn’t it about 17 years ago the last refrigerant was banned???


59 posted on 10/12/2016 11:17:02 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Not sure, but it seems that there have been several iterations of refrigerants since the original ban back in the ‘80s.


60 posted on 10/12/2016 11:35:12 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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