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The 'Quiet Catastrophe' Of Men Choosing To Not Seek Work
Investors Business Daily ^ | 10/06/2016 | GEORGE F. WILL

Posted on 10/06/2016 4:00:53 AM PDT by expat_panama

The "quiet catastrophe" is particularly dismaying because it is so quiet, without social turmoil or even debate. It is this: After 88 consecutive months of the economic expansion that began in June 2009, a smaller percentage of American males in the prime working years (ages 25 to 54) are working than were working near the end of the Great Depression in 1940, when the unemployment rate was above 14%.

If the labor force participation rate were as high today as it was as recently as 2000, nearly 10 million more Americans would have jobs.

The work rate for adult men has plunged 13 percentage points in a half-century. This "work deficit" of "Great Depression-scale underutilization" of male potential workers is the subject of Nicholas Eberstadt's new monograph "Men Without Work: America's Invisible Crisis," which explores the economic and moral causes and consequences of this:

Since 1948, the proportion of men 20 and older without paid work has more than doubled, to almost 32%. This "eerie and radical transformation" -- men creating an "alternative lifestyle to the age-old male quest for a paying job" -- is largely voluntary.

Men who have chosen to not seek work are two and a half times more numerous than men that government statistics count as unemployed because they...

...Only about 15% of men 25 to 54 who worked not at all in 2014 said they were unemployed because they could not find work.

For 50 years, the number of men in that age cohort who are neither working nor looking for work has grown nearly four times faster than the number who are working...

...The "economically inactive" have eclipsed the unemployed...

...Eberstadt does not say that government assistance causes this...

...America ranks 22nd, ahead of only Italy, in 25 to 54 male labor force participation...

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; bhoeconomy; economy; employment; georgewill; investing; layoffs; males; unemployment
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To: HLPhat

“Oh, so siting “on her lazy ass” was just an uninformed opinion you pulled out of yours.”

No, it wasn’t. Nor was it an assertion that I am married.

Do you want to comment on anything I’ve actually said or do you just want to keep shadow boxing?


161 posted on 10/06/2016 9:44:21 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

>>and your venomous attitude towards them

“volunteering to become a slave so some woman can sit on her lazy ass.”

Venomously Misogynous much?


162 posted on 10/06/2016 9:45:22 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat

“Venomously Misogynous much?”

The truth is neither venomous nor misogynist.


163 posted on 10/06/2016 9:47:43 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: expat_panama; All

I’m SO sorry that two Attention Wh*res have ruined a really good thread.

Yeesh! Get a room, already!


164 posted on 10/06/2016 9:51:45 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Xenodamus

>>I did realize from your first statement that you do not fully believe in the Word of God.

Probably not. I used to but then I started becoming a Deist.

>>Hopefully not many young conservative men will follow your advice.

It isn’t advice. It is an observation. They don’t listen to advice. But I do observe.


165 posted on 10/06/2016 9:55:03 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: alternatives?

>>I have told them that I wouldn’t get married unless their prospective wife was a devout Christian.

There’s a Barna study that found that Christians divorce about the same rate as the general population. But they do hide their problems better because they don’t want to seem like bad Christians until the actual split occurs.


166 posted on 10/06/2016 9:57:19 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Boogieman
>>No, it wasn’t.

Well, what experience was it that led you to the observation that being married is...

"volunteering to become a slave so some woman can sit on her lazy ass."

..then?

And how do you reconcile your contradictory misogynistic assertion that marriage is "volunteering to become a slave so some woman can sit on her lazy ass." - against what the Word CLEARLY...

 

Matt 19:4-6

4 "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'a 5 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?b 6 So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

NIV

Eph 5:25

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her

NIV

...says?




167 posted on 10/06/2016 9:58:34 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Yaelle
I went to a wedding of two late 20-somethings who are wealthy. From wealthy families, each has a well paid job. It was like going into the past. All the trimmings, must have been close to $100,000 for the damn DAY.

Somebody did a research paper, The Relationship between Wedding Expenses and Marriage Duration, and they found that marriages that begin with a big expensive wedding, are more likely to end in divorce.

This makes sense to me, as it's generally the bride who wants the big "dream wedding". A bride who demands an expensive wedding, is less likely to be satisfied with what her real-world husband will be able to provide for her.

168 posted on 10/06/2016 9:59:57 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Boogieman

“Certainly I did. I am not married, and I don’t fornicate either, by choice.”

But how often do you matriculate?

;^)


169 posted on 10/06/2016 10:03:30 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Boogieman
>>but those men are not Christian
 
Do all the "Christian" "men" you associate with hold the view that being married constitutes..

"volunteering to become a slave so some woman can sit on her lazy ass."

..?

170 posted on 10/06/2016 10:04:42 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat
The relationship between man and woman articulated by Jesus is not slavery. That pretense was yours.

In Jesus' time, there was no "Family court" system to strip the husband of his assets (and demand he pay monthly child-support and alimony payments in order to stay out of prison) at whichever point the wife decided that she "was unhaaaaappy".

If a wife decided that she was no longer interested in housework, or no longer interested in sex, the husband could say "Well, in that case, I'm no longer interested in feeding you".

171 posted on 10/06/2016 10:05:14 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: HLPhat

I don’t even hold that view. Remember, you decided that is what I meant without bothering to ask me. You’re arguing with yourself at this point, dude.


172 posted on 10/06/2016 10:07:46 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: elcid1970

Boy, I haven’t matriculated since the 20th century. Long dry spell :(

I do masticate every day though, so that helps.


173 posted on 10/06/2016 10:08:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: PapaBear3625

>>no “Family court” system

Who invented that system and whose responsibility is it when someone CHOOSES to reject grace and live under that system instead of the one articulated by the Word?


174 posted on 10/06/2016 10:09:17 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: elcid1970
But how often do you matriculate?

"Just keep matriculating the ball down the field, boys!"

175 posted on 10/06/2016 10:09:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: HLPhat

“And how do you reconcile your contradictory misogynistic assertion that marriage is “

I never said “marriage is...” that, which is why you have to keep putting that part in your own words and inserting it in front of my quote. I’m not going to defend statements I never made, so you are wasting your time.


176 posted on 10/06/2016 10:09:59 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

>>I don’t even hold that view.

"Dying for your country is much different than volunteering to become a slave so some woman can sit on her lazy ass. Sorry if you can’t comprehend the difference."


111 posted on 10/6/2016, 8:38:43 AM by Boogieman

Ring any bells for ya there Boogergenius?
177 posted on 10/06/2016 10:12:27 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Bryanw92

I think the government counts the 6 jobs I have had in the last 8 years in their stats too.


178 posted on 10/06/2016 10:15:43 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: HLPhat

If a wife chooses to rape her husband in the Family Court system, there’s not that much that the husband can do. And saying “well, don’t marry such unGodly wives” presupposes a Divine level of ability to look into a woman’s heart, and a supposition that her heart won’t change (with the help of her feminist friends) after the marriage.


179 posted on 10/06/2016 10:15:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

>>If a wife chooses to rape her husband in the Family Court system, there’s not that much that the husband can do.

Whose system?

Not this one, obviously:

Matt 19:4-6

4 "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'a 5 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?b 6 So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

NIV

Col 3:18-20

18 Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

19 Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.

20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord.

NIV

>>And saying “well, don’t marry such unGodly wives” 

2 Cor 6:14-16

14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial?b What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 1

NIV

RTFM?

180 posted on 10/06/2016 10:26:06 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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