Posted on 10/02/2016 11:36:48 AM PDT by Mariner
Edited on 10/02/2016 12:17:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Greensboro, N.C. - A Greensboro police officer was stripped of his law enforcement credentials last week, after the release of police body camera footage that showed him violently arresting a man for sitting on his own porch.
Police body cameras have been in the news in Charlotte, involving the fatal shooting by a police officer of Keith Lamont Scott.
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If you click the link in Post #61 I'll bet your level of suspicion will rise substantially,as did mine.IMO this is looking more and more like an experienced cop knowing that there was a distinct possibility that this was far from innocent.Using a shovel to try to enter the home of a woman who had a restraining order on you??? Yikes!
I am not familiar face, but I think that I can answer your question. There are those who believe that the police can do no wrong. There are quite a few of those myself. Then I was educated.
It would be to the police though if it was usual for family members to have keys even if they did not live at home. It could be a cultural thing.
Adult children? Who have been to prison? Who knows, maybe the his mother is remarried. But it is really none of the police’s business. He gave them plenty to check out and wasn’t being in the least belligerent, rude, or combative.
The cops already have their unions, and an incredible level of deference from the prosecutors and the judiciary. Cops that commit felonies don’t need my advocacy. They need to be charged just like any other felon. As with this case, that’s unlikely to happen.
I agree that the arrestee in this case acted stupidly. This would’ve gone much better for him if he’d simply shut his mouth after saying “I’m waiting for my mama to come home.” But big picture, that’s not what we want suspects to do. We want them to talk to police. We want them to sing like canaries. We want them to tell Officer Friendly more than enough to get them convicted. At which point Officer Friendly can make an arrest. Politely and with a minimum of fuss.
This kind of crap just drives the narrative that police are bigots, they’re not to be trusted, and they should never be spoken to.
As both cops pointed out—most criminals trying to break into a garage like that, being foiled, wouldn’t simply sit calmly on the front porch afterwards.
The cop clearly went berzerk once the guy took a call and described accurately that he was on his mother’s porch, waiting for her to come home, being harassed by the cops.
The cops didn’t “let this get out of hand”—they completely took it out of hand after he’d been cooperative, giving his id, naming his mother, naming the neighbor, etc.
My first thought on watching the video was that he was lying to the cops. Oh he was telling the truth about it being his mom’s house but he was lying about why he was there. I’m not sure why I thought so. Maybe his mannerisms. Maybe his being almost over eager to explain himself. I think the cop was justified in being suspicious but that does not justify what happened.
It would be a nice fantasy, but sadly—yes.
Doesn’t mean the cop needed to jump him like he did.
If that is what a cop who has been around the block acts like, I want us to get ourselves some new cops.
I’ve broken into my own house because I didn’t have the key to it.
Because the key was inside the house.
My own stoopids, of course, but even so, I guess I’m lucky no police were around.
Any chance that he might have,in fact,been talking to a member of his posse...a fellow ex-con...hoping for help? Are you at all curious about the several interesting observations about the guy found in the link in Post #61?
I told the statie that I’ll think about it.
Yeah, dang that spell check.
I’m thinking way back to the 20’s and 30’s ... not sure how well those novels are in their accuracy but some authors go by what they read in the news to flesh out their stories.
He had been arrested twice for breaking into the house.
If you read closely, I didn’t say that I had watched the video, my husband did. I was in another room and heard some of it. Since it was quite long, I asked him what he thought of the whole thing. He told me that as he was watching it, he sided completely the with the man, but when he heard the officer explain about cuffing him because of the phone call that hadn’t been on speakerphone, he thought the cop made sense at that point. I’m merely trying to point out that there MIGHT BE another lens to view this from. I try to get both sides of a story before making up my mind. As with the media telling lies about Trump and so many many other things, I’m disinclined to believe everything they throw my way. In fact, it isn’t trust but verify with me as far as the media is concerned. Now my first inclination is to question pretty much everything they say.
The media likes to spoon feed us only the information they want us to know, whether it’s the whole story or not. The cops may try to give us only as much information as they want out, too. Citizens are only sharing their side of the story. I just think that we aren’t learning the whole truth these days, and truthfully, haven’t been told the whole truth for a very long time. So yes, I’m skeptical about everything these days.
The thing I saw in Post #61 spoke of a "long criminal history".He also admitted to having done time.I wonder if breaking into his mother's house would constitute a "long history" and could get him time in prison.The break-ins you mention are certainly pertinent here but my hunch is that they're not the only contacts he's had with the cops/courts/prisons.I certainly could be wrong however.
That was the most unprofessional police action I’ve ever witnessed. This doesn’t help us who want to respect the cops.
Neither officer could see that they were using excessive force?
What the guy said when called was accurate—and then the cop needlessly went berzerk.
Any possible thoughts of possible conspiracies don’t justify his behavior.
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