Hold on to yer hats folks, it's gonna be a bumpy ride...
1 posted on
09/29/2016 6:20:36 PM PDT by
Nachum
To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...
2 posted on
09/29/2016 6:21:46 PM PDT by
Nachum
(ISIS is alive... and Chris Stevens is dead)
To: Nachum
obviously the globalistas, including Ryan and McConnell, are down with more tightly controlled communications to ease the path for the new world order.
To: Nachum; All
4 posted on
09/29/2016 6:29:39 PM PDT by
Freedom56v2
(Call Congress today to support the PROTECTING INTERNET FREEDOM ACT SB3034 HR5418)
To: Nachum
Even if he’s ordered to cease, he won’t. He doesn’t care what a court might say. And the court will do......nothing.
5 posted on
09/29/2016 6:33:25 PM PDT by
originalbuckeye
("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
To: All
Well, good for Arizona, Oklahoma, Nevada and Texas.
But way too little, Way too late.
Cruz, and what? two other Senators and maybe four Congress people were the only ones who cared enough to even try.
All the rest are globalist traitors and/or fools.
To: Nachum
Very little real legal information in that post. How are the planning on attempting to stop this in the next 24 hours. Are going for an emergency order from the supreme court?
9 posted on
09/29/2016 6:43:45 PM PDT by
Revel
To: Nachum
Leave it to Republicans to squander a winning issue!
To: Nachum
Oh, wait.. the Republican wrote a letter. THEY WROTE A LETTER.. they need to go to the White House and stand there until that rat bastard changes his mind. They NEED to go on TV and explain to the idiots in this Country how this is going to affect their freedom... now and in the future. No, our spineless delegation wrote a freaking letter.
13 posted on
09/29/2016 7:31:25 PM PDT by
Hildy
To: Nachum
It’s too late Obama made the Secret Deal years ago
To: Nachum
What the hell is wrong with Congress? RINOs and weasels the lot of them. Only the state’s have the balls to do something. If this fails, I hope President Trump uses his pen on Jan 20 to rescind the whole thing and tell the UN to get the hell off of controlling the Internet even if it means ripping these illegal agreements to bits and kicking the UN out of New York.
16 posted on
09/29/2016 7:53:18 PM PDT by
The Great RJ
("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatchet)
To: Nachum
In October 2016, federal oversight of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) will end, the culmination of a nearly 20-year-old plan to fully privatize the organization. As the date draws nearer for the California nonprofit to cut ties with the U.S. government, some conservative lawmakers have voiced concern that ICANNs transition to a more global, multi-stakeholder model of governance will result in countries like Russia, China and Iran having greater control over the Internet, giving them another avenue to suppress free speech. Texas Senator Ted Cruz, for example, has said that [i]f Congress fails to act, the Obama administration intends to give away control of the Internet to an international body akin to the United Nations, and has called on Congress to stop the Obama administration from relinquishing U.S. control of the Internet. While conservatives have no shortage of reasons to distrust the Obama administration regarding
well, anything, there are also reasons to be wary of claims that the U.S. is giving up control over the Internet. To understand why the sky probably isnt falling, its helpful to know what the Internet actually is, and what ICANN does and doesnt do.
Contrary to popular misconception, the Internet isnt owned or operated by the U.S. government. The Internet as we know it today is made up of tens of thousands of privately owned, interconnected networks, which neither the federal government nor ICANN control. Because it is unrealistic for a single network operator to have a network in every geographic location, network operators establish agreements to carry each others Internet traffic if the intended destination requires it. When Internet traffic between an origin and a destination takes a path across multiple networks, this process is called routing, and the hardware devices that facilitate routing are called routers. Without routing, the Internet simply wouldnt work. However, it is important to remember that, like the thousands of networks that comprise the Internet, the routers on the edges of these networks are primarily operated by the private sector, not the U.S. government or ICANN.
Although routers use IP addresses like 192.110.210.85, humans dont like having to type them into their Web browsers. Instead, people prefer readable domain names like patriotpost.us, but routers dont inherently know what to do with them. To remedy this problem and create harmony between man and machine, we use a system that turns human-readable domain names into router-usable IP addresses, which is called the Domain Name System (DNS). DNS can be thought of as a convenience layer on top of the Internets routing layer. When a domain name is typed into a Web browser, a DNS lookup is performed, which is really just a simple question: What is the IP address associated with the domain name patriotpost.us? for example. The answer is 192.110.210.85, the DNS server responds. The Web browser then takes that answer and makes it the destination, at which point it is up to the Internets routers not DNS to get you there. However, there is a potential wrinkle in this system: Anybody with a little technical know-how can set up their own DNS server, so how do we ensure that we get the right answer when we ask DNS a question? How do we know that patriotpost.us (or any other domain) is globally unique, with only one DNS server providing an authoritative answer about its IP address? Thats where ICANN enters the picture, which offers this concise explanation of the organizations role:
To reach another person on the Internet you have to type an address into your computer a name or a number. That address has to be unique so computers know where to find each other. ICANN coordinates these unique identifiers across the world. Without that coordination we wouldnt have one global Internet.
Among ICANNs primary responsibilities is the management of several important databases. The most famous of these databases is the root zone file, which is like a phone book in which the names are top-level domains like .com and the phone numbers are server addresses like a.gtld-servers.net. This root zone file is literally a simple text file viewable by anyone. Because ICANN tries to ensure that the DNS servers responsible for each top-level domain are listed correctly in the root zone file, third parties can be reasonably confident that when they consult a DNS server on the list, the lookup will yield the correct answer. In practice, the Internets 13 highest-level DNS server operators consider ICANNs root zone file to be an authoritative list of which DNS servers answer questions for which top-level domains, which in turn contributes to a consistent DNS experience across the globe and allows the Internets thousands of network operators to be on the same page. In other words, ICANN doesnt own the Domain Name System, but rather stewards a list that is trusted by DNS server operators to ensure that lookups are reliable, globally consistent and correct. And while DNS plays a crucial role in making the Internet easier to use for humans, it works at a higher level than the more fundamental routing level where Internet traffic actually transits.
Understanding what DNS does (match domains with IP addresses) and doesnt do (route Internet traffic) helps illustrate why governments like China, Iran, Egypt and Pakistan have already had great success censoring the Internet in their countries, despite the lack of any cooperation from ICANN. The creation of Chinas Great Firewall and the shutdown of Egypts Internet during the Arab Spring were possible because those countries took control of the routers within their borders. This was and continues to be the most effective method of censoring free speech on the Web, because whoever has control of the routers controls their corner of the Internet. It doesnt matter whether a DNS lookup for a website recounting the Tiananmen Square Massacre succeeds or fails if Chinas routers are configured to block IP traffic to that destination. The fact that such Internet censorship already occurs also belies the argument that the U.S. controls the Internet. If it did, why do we allow China to censor it, or Egypt to shut it down? The truth is that ICANN is unable to stop the suppression of free speech on the Internet, because the means of that suppression is beyond ICANNs ability to control or influence. However, the corollary is that it is difficult to imagine a scenario in which ICANN could suppress free speech on the Internet in a way that is more effective than current methods. Some might say thats meager consolation, since all the aforementioned human rights abusers have a seat at the ICANN table. Without direct U.S. government oversight, wont China and Iran attempt to use those seats to somehow undermine ICANN?
The answer is almost certainly, though there are reasons to be optimistic that they wont get very far. The first mitigating factor is that ICANNs Government Advisory Committee (GAC) is made up of about 170 countries, all of which have to agree on any recommendations it makes to ICANN. The key word is recommendation. The GAC does not have governing authority over ICANN. When the GAC does make unanimous recommendations, ICANNs directors will vote on those recommendations. Already, we can see problems for GAC members engaging in shenanigans: China, for example, would have to convince 170 nations (including the United States and the rest of the free world) that its a good idea to start picking winners and losers in the DNS phone book by removing Taiwans .tw top-level domain. The difficulties dont stop there, however, because ICANN will be governed under a multi-stakeholder model in which the private sector, represented by the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), will have even more power than the GAC to suggest policies to ICANN. It is precisely these private sector stakeholders that operate the majority of the DNS servers listed in ICANNs root zone file, and China would have to somehow convince them that being meddled with by an oppressive regime is preferable to the relative autonomy they enjoy. Assuming that the communists in Beijing managed to pull off this amazing feat, ICANNs directors would still be able to vote against their recommendations.
A second factor working against the Chinas and Irans on the GAC is that ICANN is only legitimate to the extent that the Internets network operators agree on its legitimacy. We have made the case that ICANN doesnt control the Internet, but rather stewards certain databases that help ensure the stability and global consistency of the Internet. While ICANN is somewhat entrenched in this role on account of its original charter and successful stewardship thus far, this by no means guarantees ICANNs future standing if the organization were to become unduly influenced by totalitarian regimes. Recall that the Internets 13 highest-level DNS servers serve the root zone file maintained by ICANN. Only one of those 13 servers is actually operated by ICANN, while the rest are run by organizations like the NASA Ames Research Center, the U.S. Army Research Lab, the University of Maryland, and Verisign (a U.S. corporation). If ICANN manipulated the root zone file in a way that harmed U.S. business interests or national security, it is unlikely that all of the highest-level DNS servers would continue to treat ICANNs root zone file as authoritative, and an opportunity would be created for another entity to maintain a database trustworthy enough to be designated authoritative. Even if all 13 of the highest-level DNS server operators did go along with ICANNs theoretical mismanagement of the root zone file, the Internets tens of thousands of network operators would have the choice of either continuing to accept the legitimacy of those 13 DNS servers, or pointing their own, lower-level DNS servers at newly created root DNS servers they deem trustworthy. While this scenario wouldnt be desirable, as it could potentially shard the Internet into two or more regional internets, it does illustrate that there would be serious limitations on the ability of a state actor to adversely influence the functionality of the Internet through ICANN.
So is the United States giving up control of the Internet? The answer is, No. The United States cant give up control it doesnt have. Rather, the U.S. is giving up direct oversight of ICANN, and will instead assume an advisory role. What does this mean for Internet freedom? In the short term, probably not much, if anything. We expect the Internet will remain uncensored in countries where it is currently uncensored, and censored in countries where it is already censored, because ICANNs function neither helps nor hinders the censorship schemes of oppressive regimes.
The long term is more difficult to assess, because just as the technology underlying the Internet continues to evolve, organizations and governments arent static they change and take on new roles. But one of the great strengths of the Internets fundamental structure is that absent centralized control, it can only function based on trust and mutual agreement. Because the Internet is comprised of thousands of independently owned networks, it is difficult for bad policies to win out over good policies, since most network operators will favor policies that benefit the greatest number of users.
Despite its important role in the reliable operation of the Internet, even ICANN cannot impose its will on unwilling network owners. Rather, ICANN has succeeded thus far because network operators have not yet been given a reason not to trust it. One of the stated objectives of ICANNs transition to a fully privatized organization without direct government oversight is to further solidify that trust and ensure that the Internet remains global, rather than devolving into numerous fractured regional internets. Whether ICANN will deliver on that commitment remains to be seen. Their track record is good, but at the intersection of technology and international politics, the future can never be certain. Fortunately, the distributed nature of the Internet means that if the new ICANN fails to live up to its stated principles, there are escape hatches.
19 posted on
09/29/2016 9:24:06 PM PDT by
Dallas59
(Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
To: Nachum; Fred Nerks
replaced by a multi-stakeholder community, which would include the technical community, businesses, civil society and governments. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Translated: “ replaced by the Saudis and the Arab world.”
22 posted on
09/30/2016 1:40:21 AM PDT by
Candor7
( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
To: Nachum
It’s been a demoralizing week watching the greatest nation in history bow to dictators everywhere, like this President has done, handing our treasure over to them with an “I’m sorry for our towering achievement”. I’m glad I’m old.
23 posted on
09/30/2016 3:12:41 AM PDT by
The Westerner
("Giving Away the Internet or Any Part of It Is Sheer Lunacy" Jim Robinson)
To: Nachum
...it will empower countries like Russia, like China, like Iran to be able to censor speech on the Internet, your speech. Countries like China, Russia, and Iran are not our friends, and their interests are not our interests. First time I heard about 'net neutrality' was about 8 years ago... a friend had brought a modern day communist to a party and the guy was ranting about 'earth elementals' and 'net neutrality'... The rest of his spiel was pure Marxism and a firm hated of the United States.
26 posted on
09/30/2016 6:01:05 AM PDT by
GOPJ
(If Lester Holt's too stupid to ask follow-ups without an ear piece he should be disqualified.)
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