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To: dp0622
I find no evidence whatsoever that Donald tramp intends to cut the deficit or reduce the debt by cutting spending.

He wants to cut taxes and increase military spending and massively increase in her spending on infrastructure. The only cuts that he recommends are "waste fraud and abuse," the shopworn siren of politicians who never seem to cut anything. A cursory review of the federal budget reveals that it is entitlements that are the cause of the overruns and Donald Trump has expressed no inclination whatsoever to cut any entitlement, indeed, he wants to create a whole new entitlement.

Trump's only solution to runaway deficits and mounting and catastrophic debt is to grow our way out of these difficulties which he proposes to do by cutting taxes and increasing economic activity, cutting regulation and increasing economic activity, by renegotiating trade deals and increasing domestic manufacturing activity; and repatriating corporate funds from abroad increasing domestic economic activity.

As to looking to the House and Senate, even if Donald Trump has an epiphany and wants to cut spending, do we really have any hope that Mitch McConnell will go along? He already has scheduled votes on the budget post election in the lame-duck time so that he can increase spending.

We better pray that the economy does grow and we better pray the Janet Yellin keeps interest rates under control so that there can be a "beautiful" rate of growth.


43 posted on 09/28/2016 3:21:52 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: nathanbedford

There is nothing in your post that I disagree with. But a couple of points:

1. Cutting entitlements. As a practical matter you can no longer run for President on this plank. Sad to say but true. We now attempt to elect Presidents who will slow down that train. Clearly Trump is a far, far better choice than the Marxist Hillary with that as a goal.

2. Cutting Regulations. Trump made a big point of this in the debate. I noticed. I hope others did as well. We are over-regulated in this country in the extreme. If he is serious about this he can cut the reach of the Federal Government into our business, industries, homes, kitchens and bedrooms. That is a good thing. That will boost economic progress. It will at least inch us toward bringing back some of the manufacturing jobs to this country. And it would be a huge boost for the energy industry if we just get the Global Warming Foolishness out of our regulatory system.


44 posted on 09/28/2016 3:52:54 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you should have endorsed. Big mistake.)
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To: nathanbedford

“As to looking to the House and Senate, even if Donald Trump has an epiphany and wants to cut spending, do we really have any hope that Mitch McConnell will go along? He already has scheduled votes on the budget post election in the lame-duck time so that he can increase spending.”

Then vote for Hillary Clinton. I’m sure she’ll do the job much better.


60 posted on 09/28/2016 5:18:32 AM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS!)
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To: nathanbedford
As to looking to the House and Senate, even if Donald Trump has an epiphany and wants to cut spending, do we really have any hope that Mitch McConnell will go along? He already has scheduled votes on the budget post election in the lame-duck time so that he can increase spending.

Here's the thing - we know the GOPers in the House and Senate are weak, easily intimidated, and creatures of self interest.

Weakness doesn't only work one way, it works in all ways.

If Obama could push them around, so can Trump.

62 posted on 09/28/2016 5:20:18 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: nathanbedford

“...massive increase in spending on infrastructure ...”

Would that not result in massive construction jobs being created? We do need to cut wasteful federal entitlements, a bloated bureaucracy, etc. and Trump clearly prides himself on keeping unnecessary costs down; look at how well he has kept spending under control in these primaries and the current campaign. The government’s (only) role is to protect us and to maintain our infrastructure.

Spending on construction jobs for real/actual badly needed infrastructure projects and doing it right (without padding and corruption and favors to certain contractors etc.), ought to be considered a plus for Trump. Trump knows how to build and knows how to stay on budget; construction is his expertise.


66 posted on 09/28/2016 5:30:20 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: nathanbedford

The Congress only authorizes spending: it is the executive which performs it.
And if Mr. (soon to be President) Trump, who is known for his economy on projects, fails to spend as much as has been allotted, then the deficit will not grow as much as ‘planned’ by the Dem moles within the GOP.

I don’t know if they believe the Republic is doomed and are just partying on the Titanic or whether they’re literal traitors who bought into Coward-Piven.


67 posted on 09/28/2016 5:30:40 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: nathanbedford

“Donald tramp”

FOAD, Nathan.


71 posted on 09/28/2016 5:37:25 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: nathanbedford

Ted Cruz lost..please, please get over it.


80 posted on 09/28/2016 5:52:37 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: nathanbedford
I find no evidence whatsoever that Donald tramp intends to cut the deficit or reduce the debt by cutting spending.

That is a given for Hillary. No evidence is needed. She is going to tax and spend. And she has said nothing about repairing an eviscerated military. Her focus will be on expanding the welfare state.

We better pray that the economy does grow and we better pray the Janet Yellin keeps interest rates under control so that there can be a "beautiful" rate of growth.

We are not going to grow our way out of this fiscal mess. The biggest drivers of our growing debt are the entitlement programs, which are on automatic pilot. We are an aging population with 10,000 people retiring every day up thru 2030. Medicare and SS costs will continue to grow. We need entitlement reform.

Trump has been smart politically by not addressing entitlement reform, knowing full well that the Dems will go to their usual playbook and blame the Reps for taking away SS and Medicare. There can be no reform without bipartisan support.

SS and Medicare are pay as you go programs, i.e., today's workers pay for today's retirees. SS has been running in the red since 2010 and Medicare since 2008. The shortfall is being made up by cashing in T-bills from the trust funds using the General Fund. The trust funds are included in the $19 trillion national debt and represent an unfunded liability. The Medicare trust funds will be exhausted in 2024 and SS in 2033. After that, by law, benefits will have to be reduced based on existing revenue.

In 1950 there were 16 workers for every retiree; today, there are less than 3; and by 2030 there will be two workers for every retiree. And by 2030 one out of every five people will be 65 or older. The entitlement programs are unsustainable.

Hoping that Yellen keeps interest rates "under control" is an outrage. The Fed has been artificially keeping interest rates low and buying huge amounts of T-bills, i.e., printing money. The Fed now holds $2.5 trillion of our national debt. Low interest rates have hurt savers and helped Wall Street. Yellen and her predecessors have put us on a tiger and we don't know how to get off. Besides the risks of deflation, any interest rate increases could trigger a collapse in the stock market. Trump is correct. The Fed is totally politicized. And it is exceeding its mandate.

As to looking to the House and Senate, even if Donald Trump has an epiphany and wants to cut spending, do we really have any hope that Mitch McConnell will go along? He already has scheduled votes on the budget post election in the lame-duck time so that he can increase spending.

The GOP controlled Congress has given Obama everything he wants and more. Ryan helped push the Omnibus bill that will increase our debt by trillions. There has not been a single budget under Obama that has been passed according to the prescribed process.

109 posted on 09/28/2016 10:23:41 AM PDT by kabar
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To: nathanbedford

I think your assessment of what Trump will do is fair, based on his statements and responses.

However, I think there is another interpretation, admittedly unproven, but yet worth considering:

Conservative arguments, when offered straightforwardly, are already paired with ready made liberal rebuttals. The conservative argument is the truth and the rebuttal is a lie, I know. But in real life right doesn’t seem to win over wrong. A rebuttal based on lies often ‘wins’ the argument, the election, the legislation, the verdict.

Case in point:

Conservative argument: Prices (including wages) established by supply and demand in a free competitive market will direct capital toward its optimal use, and result in increased prosperity across all income brackets. As JFK said, “a rising tide raises all ships.” Redistribution of wealth to enforce income equality involves artificially setting prices (including wages) at non market rates, which stifles the flow of capital toward its optimal use, thereby stifling prosperity at all levels.

Liberal rebuttal: This is the same old “trickle down economy” where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. The poor are expected to be content with table scraps and drippings. It is a discredited theory invented to justify the suppression of the masses by the wealthy 1%.

So what if the conservative argument is true and the liberal rebuttal is a lie?

In politics, a principled constitutional conservative scholar is never going to get elected by explaining the truth of conservatism. We all know this. There simply aren’t enough intelligent conservative voters.

If you want Clinton to be defeated, you can’t force Trump to say only those things that will please the 5-10% of us who are conservative. You have to let him find creative ways to appeal to another 40 - 45% on some basis or another. There is simply no other choice.

Now, I happen to believe that we are so close to the cliff edge that conservatives always warn about, it is no longer necessary to argue about whether there is a cliff edge, how far away it is, what direction we should go to avoid the cliff edge. The cliff edge is now within view and everyone can see it. Now, you can simply say “Turn around, we have no choice”

That is Trump’s message. “We are at the cliff edge. We must turn around or fall off the cliff!”

It’s a good enough message for this conservative, especially when Clinton, the only other candidate is saying “Forward, full speed ahead!”

I think Trump is a pragmatist, a problem solver. I think conservative policies are the only solutions, and in order to solve our problems, we will have no choice but to employ conservative policies.

But there is nothing that says Trump or those who vote for him have to realize or acknowledge that they are being conservative. I doubt conservatives will ever enjoy that moment of vindication, where everyone says “The conservatives were right all along, we were stupid liberals heading for a cliff edge, now let’s be smart conservatives and go back the other direction”. Please conservatives, teach us more about this wonderful philosophy of yours”.

It will be more like “We have to turn around and go the other way. We have no choice.”

And that sounds a lot like what Trump has been saying.


114 posted on 09/28/2016 12:03:54 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: nathanbedford

Oh — IT WILL GROW HUGE!!


116 posted on 09/28/2016 12:51:26 PM PDT by WENDLE (Trump campaign raised $18 million the day after debate!!)
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