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Pence breaks with Trump, says humans affect climate change
Associated Press ^ | Sep 27, 2016 1:12 PM EDT | Scott Bauer

Posted on 09/27/2016 10:27:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Donald Trump’s running mate is breaking with the Republican nominee’s claim that climate change is not the result of human activity.

Vice presidential nominee Mike Pence said Tuesday “there’s no question’ that human activity affects both the climate and the environment. […]

Pence, appearing separately on CNN, said, “let’s follow the science,” but he warned against rushing into environmental restrictions that drive jobs out of the country and put Americans out of work. …

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: globalwarming
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To: Olog-hai

I said from day one that this guy is an empty suit.


101 posted on 09/27/2016 11:49:12 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Jane Long

Watch the vid posted upthread before you make such an ignorant statement.


If Pence is comfortable in using man made climate change when the climate was changing millions of years before man was even on the planet, then Trump must have picked the wrong running mate.

If you want to talk about pollution, that is one thing but climate change is another and it is the power mad people in the environmentalist movement that is putting the two together to make it look like man made climate climate change, Pence should be wise enough not to fall for it.

Trump has a dam good track record but no one is 100 percent infallible, and every one is ignorant on one subject or another but you missed on that one.


102 posted on 09/27/2016 11:49:15 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain words, please don`t preach it to me.)
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To: Olog-hai

The issue, of course is degree (no pun intended). If you spit in the ocean you effect sea level, but don’t build new sea walls because of it. Similarly, humans can also be said to effect climate change. However, all but the die hard climate kooks say that humans don’t cause catastrophic global warming.


103 posted on 09/27/2016 11:49:24 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I agree.


104 posted on 09/27/2016 11:51:38 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain words, please don`t preach it to me.)
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To: kabar

I agree with the notion of following science, to the detriment of the left’s pseudoscience. I have observed no instance of a permanent human impact on the environment (but rather temporary, unless it is continually exacerbated, and there are several examples of that), and none on climate. There are also several divine curses in action that the left, being materialistic, attributes to human activity.


105 posted on 09/27/2016 11:52:29 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: mjp; Jane Long; Windflier

I think Pence and Trump are not opposed to clean air and clean water and stewardship of our land, sea, and air in general. We have made great strides in improving quality, but worship of Earth over our people’s right to work and crippling industry and manufacturing is not going to fly with TRUMP, or Pence, or me.

Pence could have been more exact, but his and TRUMP’s words will always be slandered, twisted and mocked, as this AP story proves.


106 posted on 09/27/2016 11:52:55 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education is the farm team for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

This is not much of a break from Trump. Headline fodder.


107 posted on 09/27/2016 11:54:20 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: kabar

PS. The UN is not the source to consult, with all due respect.


108 posted on 09/27/2016 11:54:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: RitaOK

Turns out this is an AP smear from a Chris Coumo interview on CNN. Pence handled the subject perfectly in keeping with Trump’s point of view that “Washington bureaucrats can not control the climate of the Earth”.


Thanks, Rita!


109 posted on 09/27/2016 11:54:47 AM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: RitaOK

Thanks, i think we need to just listen to what the man says rather than take the dam lying news stations word for it.


110 posted on 09/27/2016 11:55:22 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain words, please don`t preach it to me.)
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To: ravenwolf
If you want to talk about pollution, that is one thing but climate change is another and it is the power mad people in the environmentalist movement that is putting the two together to make it look like man made climate climate change, Pence should be wise enough not to fall for it.

Pence is not saying that man can control the climate, but human activity has or can have some impact on it. For example, if Brazil decided to wipe out the Amazon rain forest by cutting down all the trees, the climate of the Earth would be affected just as the existence of the rain forest is impacting our climate now.

111 posted on 09/27/2016 11:55:23 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Olog-hai

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/12/15/1418641268146/0d213c1c-d0f4-41e4-b02c-abe1b1a3ba81-2060x1236.jpeg?w=860&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=754887ceb9a6a23bc7afc45e7c50956f


112 posted on 09/27/2016 11:56:47 AM PDT by doug from upland (She is evil, corrupt, and brain damaged.)
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To: doug from upland

Looks like a paint vapor mask.


113 posted on 09/27/2016 11:58:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Well, I guess there’s no more sitting on the Pence.


114 posted on 09/27/2016 11:58:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (42 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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To: Olog-hai
We have to acknowledge that the UN plays a role and that the ECV are the product of a global consensus by meteorological scientists.

The 50 GCOS Essential Climate Variables (ECVs) (2010) are required to support the work of the UNFCCC and the IPCC. All ECVs are technically and economically feasible for systematic observation. It is these variables for which international exchange is required for both current and historical observations. Additional variables required for research purposes are not included in this table. It is emphasized that the ordering within the table is simply for convenience and is not an indicator of relative priority.

115 posted on 09/27/2016 12:00:29 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Olog-hai

Obviously, humans affect the client in some way. That does not mean the effects are significant, negative or reversible. And of course the climate is always changing and always has been.


116 posted on 09/27/2016 12:02:27 PM PDT by Stingray51
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To: americas.best.days...

I like Pence. I think he’s a good fit. It was still a dumb statement. It’s not going to change minds either way. It’s still silly for him to give credence to that nonsense junk science


117 posted on 09/27/2016 12:04:23 PM PDT by Mjreagan
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To: Olog-hai

The 7 billion humans on the planet do impact the environment, which in turn affects the climate. The issue is to what extent. There is no proof that human activity is the controlling factor or even to what extent it influences the climate. The science is not settled.


118 posted on 09/27/2016 12:04:51 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

It’s not always “immediate vicinity”. For example, in many bodies of water in the USA, the primary source of mercury contamination is... China.

However, if one studies the Earth’s climate over the last few million years, there’s really little to suggest that, barring a sizeable nuclear war, MAN is heading the Earth toward a global catastrophe that Mother Nature (or God, if you like) would not hit us with anyway. IF we are having an effect at all, it may be to delay or reduce the effect of the next period of glaciation — a pretty well guaranteed event, otherwise.


119 posted on 09/27/2016 12:08:27 PM PDT by Paul R.
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To: pissant
Shut your trap, Pence.

Ok Governor, now please explain for me how humans were responsible for The Little Ice Age.

Take your time, I'll give you a few days to come up with it.

120 posted on 09/27/2016 12:11:41 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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