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Defying the odds: How to flip a Trump voter using pure logic [are you convinced now?]
Salon ^ | SEP 25, 2016 | ERICA ETELSON

Posted on 09/26/2016 6:54:51 AM PDT by Antioch

The only way to talk someone out of voting for Trump is to stop trying to talk them out of voting for Trump. To all my fellow progressives who’ve been busily browbeating supporters of this dangerous demagogue, you’re invited to become an early adopter of a far more rewarding, non-adversarial approach called “powerful non-defensive communication.”

According to most commentators, the prototypical Trump supporter is an uneducated, narrow-minded bigot with legitimate grievances against the faltering economy which Trump has skillfully alchemized into violent rage toward non-whites, Muslims and successful women. The Trump voter is a patriarchal authoritarian primed since early childhood to fearfully submit to a bullying father who always knows best. In the circular logic of the authoritarian mindset, might makes right — and so Trump, as the strongman, is necessarily the winner in a competition against losers.

(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...


TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; liberalism; mentalillness; trumphilary
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To: lrdg

“Hmmmm..... how can I convince people that I’m right. What to do, what to do... I know! I’ll tell them that they’re narrow-minded violent bigots that are too stupid to comprehend the magnitude of my brilliance! Yeah! That’ll work!”


61 posted on 09/26/2016 7:35:36 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Antioch

“Have you seen Trump do or say anything you believe was insulting to women?”

“Gawd I laughed my ass off when he had that war with Rosie O’Donnell and called her stupid. Isn’t she the one who thinks fire can’t melt steel?”


62 posted on 09/26/2016 7:35:42 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Antioch

She’d look good in a burka.


63 posted on 09/26/2016 7:35:50 AM PDT by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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To: Antioch
According to most commentators...

There's the problem, right there.

They're wrong.

AND they're politically Left wing, globalist in economic and political outlook, pro-eco over people, supporters of abortion--killing babies, racist haters of Caucasians, anti-American exceptionalism, historical revisionists, pro-sexual perverts, social justice warriors, and haters of those who don't lockstep think their way.

So, while you and 'most' of your commentators think your $h1t about us conservatives, this is what most of us think of YOU.

64 posted on 09/26/2016 7:36:32 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Original Lurker

Oy! I’ll hazard this guess — she had a lib mom and mean daddy, they split, little Erica was never Daddy’s beloved princess (girls need that), got steeped in man-hating feminism, has had shallow and unsuccessful relationships with men and has needed much attention, now as a self-proclaimed rabble rouser. But her 15 minutes will never satisfy.


65 posted on 09/26/2016 7:38:22 AM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough!)
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To: Mr. K

That’s what makes them so easy to blindside.


66 posted on 09/26/2016 7:39:03 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Antioch

How to flip a Trump voter using shopworn stereotypes and sophomoric name-calling.


67 posted on 09/26/2016 7:42:04 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Antioch

I enjoy unintentional irony, and this article overflows with it. “Dangerous demagogue a” That’s Hillary. I realize that a lot of people like the writer of this bit of (rhymes with it) exist, but seeing them smear their feces on paper like this is more than I want to see. The only thing that is positive is that it gives another name to the tar and feather list of irredeemables.


68 posted on 09/26/2016 7:42:13 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Antioch

Pure Logic
If logic was a criteria there would be no Hillary Voters


69 posted on 09/26/2016 7:42:35 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: jiggyboy
And, in a nutshell, you've found why liberals *hate* Trump.

He tells the truth. Since Liberalism is largely based on pretending - for instance if we ALL pretend that Bruce Jenner is female then it will be so... - it can't stand up to people who tell the truth.

In this day and age, especially among politicians, truthtelling is a rare thing. Ergo, DJT comes off in a brutal manner that snowflakes don't know how to deal with.

Personally, I think that it would be abrasive to deal with in person. But I don't need to marry the guy, I just need to hire him to be a good president. Which I think he'll do.

70 posted on 09/26/2016 7:47:27 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Antioch
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71 posted on 09/26/2016 7:51:56 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: kiryandil
These morons couldn't be farther from the truth with their stereotype of a Trump voter, at least as it applies to me. I was born in 1947. My father came to this country from Holland in 1912 as a little boy with the rest of his family. My mother came to this country as a little girl with her mother and brother in the early 1920's. I am a first generation American, and unfortunately never knew any of my grandparents as they had all died before I was born.

My Dad worked on the NY Central Railroad, was a Union member, and an avowed Democrat. My mother cleaned houses and did laundry for a few bucks a week. My Dad never completed grammar school. My mother left highschool to marry my father when she was 16. No, they didn't have to get married. Their first child, my oldest sister wasn't born until my mother was 20. My Dad never served in the military. He was too young for WWI, and about 37 when Pearl Harbor was bombed. They never would have taken him anyway. He had Osteomyelitis. One leg was shorter than the other, and he had a constant draining wound his whole life. My only brother served in the Army, and was in Vietnam during '66-67. I'm the only one left of the four kids they had.

I grew up in the City of Rochester, and attended a racially mixed highschool, graduating in 1965. I was the youngest girl in the family, and the only one to attend college, although it was later in life. I managed to get my Masters Degree, although I never used it in my job. College was more of a challenge to myself to see how far I could go. I spent many years doing historical research on the Civil War as a hobby. I did my Masters thesis on the second black regiment out of Massachusetts, tracking down descendants of both the white officers, and the black enlisted men. Some had been slaves, and I met and became friends with the grandson of one of those former slaves. I probably know more about black history than most blacks do. I'm still a history buff. Now my interests are in British history, WWI and WWII.

Hey libs...take your stereotypes and shove them.

72 posted on 09/26/2016 7:56:25 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Ray76

In my experience, the people who have the most violent rage against successful (and attractive) women are unattractive liberal woman.

However, I guess she’s right in that I am bigoted against lawless thugs (regardless of skin color), Muslim terrorists (and the belief system that demands it) and women who wish to kill their own babies in the womb.


73 posted on 09/26/2016 7:57:30 AM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: Antioch

Brought to you from the people who called Bush Hitler and Reagan a racist war-monger.

They were wrong then and even more wrong now.


74 posted on 09/26/2016 7:58:37 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Ray76
"Wow" is right.

Erica at Salon must have forgotten those Trump supporters like my wife and I. Both of us are college-educated, both ex-military officers and both professionals in our careers.

I keep wondering where all these millions of uneducated people are in this country who are supporting Donald Trump. You'd think from the way the Leftist media spouts off, that we haven't had a public school system in this country for decades. And that all those people who didn't attend school have gravitated to Trump because they are "stupid". Or so says Erica at Salon.

75 posted on 09/26/2016 7:58:56 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Antioch

First, compare Body Counts...


76 posted on 09/26/2016 7:59:27 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: Antioch

That this Etelson creature and people who like her could be so ignorant and yet be permitted to freely walk the streets with normal people is frightening.


77 posted on 09/26/2016 8:00:39 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (The Democrats are so lacking in class, especially the avant-garde.)
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To: Antioch
Truly a basket full of deplorables.
78 posted on 09/26/2016 8:02:38 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Antioch

Yeah, that won’t work.


79 posted on 09/26/2016 8:03:16 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: struggle
Salon’s argument: “...but, but, you’re racist.”

It collapses if people respond "OK. So?"

The Left's world-view is based on the idea that being a racist/sexist/homophobe/etc (the list of Hillary's "deplorable" characteristics) makes you a bad person who is unfit for polite company.

And the accusation alone convicts you.

80 posted on 09/26/2016 8:03:52 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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