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4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway
http://komonews.com/live ^ | 9/23/2016 | Nominees.com

Posted on 09/23/2016 8:26:33 PM PDT by securityMama

Active shooter at large


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To: ShivaFan

4 pics now with diff views of head http://komonews.com/news/local/gallery/who-is-the-cascade-mall-shooter#photo-1


421 posted on 09/24/2016 10:17:20 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Tours

I am talking about terrorists during attack, not on for a stroll to the kebab cart.


422 posted on 09/24/2016 10:18:39 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Put it this way: Moslems are more than willing to die. Unlike anyone else. And much more likely to die in the process than most other mass-murderers.


423 posted on 09/24/2016 10:19:14 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Deo volente
There are reports that he entered the mall without the rifle, but then had it when he entered Macy’s.

I don't thing those are reports, but interpretations of the terrible quality photos. But, you can see a dark strap across his chest starting at his right shoulder. Very possible he had the rifle across his back. Or, as I mentioned in post #401 (see link there) he could have had a "takedown" rifle under his shirt and pants.

I'm leaning toward a short rifle on his back. At 9:30 pm, not too many people in the mall and most aren't looking at his back. If he had it in a black cloth case, it would be essentially invisible. Just my opinion.

424 posted on 09/24/2016 10:22:24 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill TWITTER !! Kill FACEBOOK !! Free MILO !!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I hope and pray they find this guy to be illegal alien!!!! They are going to be screaming about gun control if he IS illegal they LOSE the argument !!!!!


425 posted on 09/24/2016 10:23:19 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: ShivaFan

I am not ruling anything out - so far they have said there was a teen victim, an older lady, and a man. That is all we know about the victims.

However, if there were ANY indication of terrorism at this point you can be assured that the FBI would have taken over the investigation and they would be in front of the cameras. The fact that they said in the press conference that a local Lt. from the Skagit County Incident Team is running the investigation tells us quite a bit if we read between the lines.


426 posted on 09/24/2016 10:23:47 AM PDT by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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To: Right Wing Assault

The man running the investigation said he entered without the rifle and came back. See my post above yours and the linked article.

That is not speculation and one would think the person who said that probably knows the most about the incident at this point?


427 posted on 09/24/2016 10:25:29 AM PDT by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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To: PghBaldy

Could be anything - Hispanic, caucasion, arabic..

But I would guess Serbian/Chechnian. East European Muslim.


428 posted on 09/24/2016 10:29:40 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: ShivaFan

There are reports he called out a woman’s name multiple times before he began shooting. First thought is he was there to kill a ex girlfriend. But, with the pic out there it would seem that one of the girls friends or family would have identified him by now.

Unless of course the girls name was Allah.

Would love to know what is on his t shirt.


429 posted on 09/24/2016 10:29:43 AM PDT by phoneman08
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To: PghBaldy

If they did not notify next of kin, then that is very ,very odd. The victims ID is right there, in their purse or wallet.There is a shooter loose, and the first thing you want to rule out is angry boyfriend or spouse. Which makes this more suspect.


430 posted on 09/24/2016 10:30:36 AM PDT by kaila
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Being willing to die is not the same as planning for a suicide attack. In recent years we have seen highly varied tactics with the predominant method being that they prepare to get away in order to attack again at another time in a different manner. Muslims are not robots...they don’t have a set program. With the exception of the choice of weaponry, this particular attack bears much resemblance to other Islamic small scale attacks.


431 posted on 09/24/2016 10:33:29 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (I'm deplorable)
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To: stinkerpot65

He bears a significant resemblance to the Tsarnaev brothers.


432 posted on 09/24/2016 10:35:26 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (I'm deplorable)
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To: PghBaldy
The weird thing is the shorts. Do muslim terrorists wear shorts in this country?

I'm not thinking this is terrorism. I have a hunch it was a crime of passion with one targeted victim, an ex-girlfriend, and 4 innocent bystanders in the wrong place, wrong time.

The shooter has probably blown his brains out by now in the woods somewhere.

I just arrived at this thread and went straight to the last post to see if he had been caught yet so the scenario I presented has likely been thought up by others as well.

433 posted on 09/24/2016 10:41:16 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Ditter

Burlington, Washington about 65 miles north of Seattle


434 posted on 09/24/2016 10:45:06 AM PDT by securityMama (a Mississippian by choice!)
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To: Drew68

“The shooter has probably blown his brains out by now in the woods somewhere.” -— Hopefully.


435 posted on 09/24/2016 10:49:34 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: stinkerpot65

I would think the nose would be wider if hispanic, so you could very well be right.


436 posted on 09/24/2016 10:51:18 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Drew68
I'm not thinking this is terrorism. I have a hunch it was a crime of passion with one targeted victim, an ex-girlfriend, and 4 innocent bystanders in the wrong place, wrong time.

That's entirely possible. With the timeline, the photos of him coming in apparently without a rifle seem to be about 10 minutes or more before the shooting started. That's plenty of time to come in and make sure that his intended target was there before going back out to get the rifle.

The reports of a second suspect come from early witness reports on the scanner that said that he'd been seen before the shooting talking to a balding man in his 50's near the AMC theater. No word on how that panned out. Could be nothing. Could be everything.

437 posted on 09/24/2016 11:12:10 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Drew68

I think we way over-think this stuff. There was a jihadi knife attack at a mall just last weekend, jihadi bombings in New Jersey and New York last weekend. This radicalized Islamic kid with family roots back somewhere in Islamic lands uses a method he knows and is familiar with - maybe he has help, maybe not - he walks in executes his attack quickly before an alarm can be raised, hitting the first place he comes to. He shoots his ammo, drops the weapon and gets out fast, well before any police could get close to responding, runs off in his pre-planned escape route...maybe with help and maybe not...and disappears. He becomes a hero in his world.


438 posted on 09/24/2016 11:22:06 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (I'm deplorable)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

2 cars searching the Milltown area north of Stanwood.


439 posted on 09/24/2016 11:44:29 AM PDT by freebird5850 (Trust Republicans Under My Presindency)
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To: Drew68

The shooter left the weapon on the cosmetics counter.


440 posted on 09/24/2016 11:45:27 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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