Posted on 09/23/2016 7:29:56 AM PDT by rktman
Amid a climate of confusion and anger, retired police officer Jeff Roorda lent his pro-police perspective to CNN’s analysis of the shooting of Terence Crutcher in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
While video footage shows Crutcher with his hands up only seconds before Officer Betty Shelby fired the fatal shot, Roorda cautioned against rushing to condemn the officer, particularly given what already is known about the suspect.
“Let’s wait for all the information before we reach some judgment,” Roorda told host Don Lemon during a Tuesday appearance on CNN Tonight. “And I think what we know so far is that this gentleman did not have his hands up when the officer shot him. We know that he was very likely under the influence of a controlled substance.”
In case developments on Thursday, the officer was charged with first-degree manslaughter.
District Attorney Steve Kunzweiler filed the charges Shelby, 42, and her lawyer was arranging for her to surrender.
Lemon noted that until autopsy results are released, it won’t be known if Crutcher was under the influence, but Roorda warned against drawing hasty conclusions anyway.
“We’re fine with rushing to judgment on the police officer, but we don’t want to rush to judgment on the suspect,” Roorda chided. “But they did find PCP in his car.”
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“Could he have reached into his waistband?”
If he was reaching for his waistband, why did Shelby say he was reaching into his vehicle?
That would be his vehicle with the closed door and closed window.
Shades of Rodney King where we only saw the video after he was down.
“Nothing Indicates she thought her life was in danger and the three other police officers did not believe their lives were in danger.”
I think she was scared. I don’t think she wanted to shoot him because she didn’t like him.
I watched an episode of Alaska Highway Patrol (or whatever it’s called) last night. They went to a house where a guy with a gun was inside. If I were one of those cops I’d be scared stiff. Not sure I could do that. In this case no one shot a gun.
“What am I, chopped liver???”
Tulsa is more red neck, despite the best efforts of those who think they know better. Outside of T-town, even more so (red neck). Personally, I'd rather associate with red necks than may urban dwellers I've met...
There is also the memory of that 1921 race riot, which NO ONE wants a repeated instance of.
It is my perception that the local powers-that-be, be it the city administration, the black community or the churches, are all doing everything they can to keep a lid on the potential for violence, while accepting and encouraging peaceful demonstrations.
The fly in the proverbial ointment is that Sharpton is coming to town next week. We'll see how that goes.
You are cordially invited to steer clear if it makes you happy. :)
Actually, Tulsa is not a bad place to live. I just wish that the local "leaders" would stop trying to attract more people to move here! I kinda like it the way it is! :)
I tell people that Oklahoma has tornadoes, earthquakes, hurricane (remnants), ticks, chiggers, wait-a-minute vines, floods, droughts and a small crop of Progressives. Stay away!
The Tulsa officer has been indicted. There is no point in rioting for "justice".
The Charlotte shooting seems to be justified, therefore rioting is needed to pressure the local government to throw the officer under the bus. The objective is to make officers hesitant to shoot, even when they have good reason to.
Also, I'm guessing the Charlotte guy was a gang banger, and his fellow gang members want to make it policy that THEY are immune from police force.
I understand that her husband, also a TPD officer, happened to be riding in the helicopter observing the events real time. He must be sick with grief about how all of this went down, and watching what is happening to his wife.
I wonder what effect this will have on long term willingness and/or ability of authorities to confront black males.
LOL! That’s like saying Austin represents the state of Texas right?
“I wonder what effect this will have on long term willingness and/or ability of authorities to confront black males. “
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It’s already having a big effect and the recent case that said that blacks running from cops is okay will make it worse.
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My standard for the actions of an officer is this:
If that same officer would put you in prison for doing what they did then that’s where they belong, too.
Period.
The point is when he lowered his arms he became an immediate mortal threat. Whether he was trying to get into his car through the door or an open window is immaterial. He made a move in the direction of his car. He could have gotten a gun in seconds. The officers life was in danger. It was actually in danger the whole time he ignored her orders. This isn’t the old west were you tell the guy to draw first.
More evidence of being willfully and woefully uninformed while being proud of it. SMH...
It really wasn't meant seriously ... I've had some good times in Oklahoma at square-dance festivals and conventions.
Uninformed? I know about equal protection before the law and I know that police swear an oath to defend and protect principles like that...and you think I’m wrong because I think those principles apply to them, too?
You’re shaking your head because I object to people who think they’re more equal than other Americans?
You shake your head all you want. I’ll bow mine in prayer asking God to open the eyes of people like yourself who’ve forgotten what it means to be an Amnerican.
Interestingly, my mom and step father (and to some extent, me, my brother and sister lo these many years ago) have been involved in square dancing here in Tulsa, northeast Oklahoma and in the region for many years. I knew a lot of these folks as I was growing up, and had a lot of fun! The festivals were amazing!
SMH because you have no understanding that the job requirements make them different (not special) because of what we ask them to do in protecting and securing our freedoms. Sometimes these different requirements are more stringent than on Joe Citizen but Joe C. also isn't asked to respond to domestic calls (what the officer was dispatched to) and what they find en route. Courts have established the criteria, officers are trained, and then expected to act to protect themselves, innocent citizens, and those they contact to resolve multiple kinds of incidents.
Your responses remind me of an observation by George Orwell that was turned into this: "We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us."
Google "Dinkheller video" and find out why officers are trained to be wary about a person returning to their vehicle. WARNING: Graphic audio
“Google “Dinkheller video” and find out why officers are trained to be wary about a person returning to their vehicle.”
Cops are also trained to order people BACK into their vehicles.
So in some situations a person stands a pretty good chance of getting killed because what one officer orders them to do can conflict with what another officer was trained to prevent.
Bottom line is that police are accustomed to being able to blame whoever they want for something. And now there’s video cameras everywhere and they’re not getting away with making stuff up about the people they kill, arrest, or beat.
Seriously, if you encounter a cop and that cop wants to put you in jail even though you did nothing wrong then you’re going to jail. I hope you never experience that kind of thing but I have and it left a mark.
Well, you're here now so that just proves the old saying: "You may beat the rap but you can't beat the ride."
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