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Sailor says Navy punished her for not standing for 'Star Spangled Banner'
New York Times ^ | September 22, 2016 | WITW Staff

Posted on 09/22/2016 7:25:38 PM PDT by kevcol

Ervin explained in her Facebook post that on September 19, "while in uniform, I made the conscious decision to not stand for the Star Spangled Banner because I feel like a hypocrite, singing about 'land of the free' when, I know that only applies to some Americans." Ervin said in the post that she was punished by Navy officials and that the "equipment I need to do my Naval job" was taken away.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blm; military; nationalanthem; navy; protest; usn
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To: null and void

I spent two years in my early / mid twenties working outside the US. I first experienced South American strongmen / caudillos in Argentina and Ecuador. Chile had dumped Allende and had Pinochet. I got to communist China two weeks after Mao had died.

You are right. There is NOTHING like spending two years of your life in some backwards despotic / tyrannical places to make you appreciate the good old US of A.

Stupid whiny bitch is just another young person taught grudges her whole life and no understanding of the world. I wish all of these bastards and bitches would move to Africa for good.


61 posted on 09/22/2016 7:45:57 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: DJ Taylor

She will be rewarded with a promotion, Mr. Taylor.


62 posted on 09/22/2016 7:46:21 PM PDT by sport
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To: NorthMountain
Other Than Honorable...
63 posted on 09/22/2016 7:48:42 PM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: kevcol

The Idiot in the White House is creating a ton of Idiots


64 posted on 09/22/2016 7:49:48 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: kevcol

I read her Facebook post...

Kick her out for being too stupid to understand all Americans are free...

Some simply are too dumb to obey the law....


65 posted on 09/22/2016 7:52:49 PM PDT by Popman
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To: kevcol

Affirm my victomhood. 15 minutes. 15 minutes.


66 posted on 09/22/2016 7:54:20 PM PDT by dasboot (  Deplorable Crude Populist)
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To: AndyJackson

Go to the brig for a serious crime, eh? Guess being drunk coming aboard ship after leave is a serious crime? I know the wretch that sold his car to 8 people took their money is not a serious enough crime as he was never investigated when his chief was told. The subsequent beating he got put those who beat him so he spent time in the infirmary for the next month yielded the person brig time. This woman needs brig time as not standing for the national anthem is a serious crime. For an O6 to say that this is not is an O6 I would salute but would never respect. Respect the bars but not the man.


67 posted on 09/22/2016 7:57:57 PM PDT by zaxtres
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To: kevcol

Disgrace to the uniform - Go join the Taliban army, coward.


68 posted on 09/22/2016 8:01:48 PM PDT by Gasshog (Clinton denies... Except to see a lot of this)
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To: zaxtres

Let me rephrase this, an O6 that says not standing for the national anthem is an O6 I would salute but would never respect. Respect the bars not the man.

A serious crime is not saluting the flag, not standing at attention when outside for the raising and lowering of the flag and not standing for the national anthem. You are fighting for this country, the flag is the symbol of this country when you are away from it. You disrespect the flag you disrespect the country and have no business in the military. Its okay her career is over no matter unless pansy azz 0bummer butt plugs let her by with a slap on her wrist.


69 posted on 09/22/2016 8:02:38 PM PDT by zaxtres
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To: kevcol

I should hope so!

Courts Martial her sorry ass. Dishonorable - nothing less.


70 posted on 09/22/2016 8:03:44 PM PDT by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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To: kevcol
America's Navy new slogan: 'Now, with more sex than the LOVE BOAT.'

Another setback for America -- MORONS in the Military, like this 'liberal lowlife'.

Lady, try seeing if the Saudi Arabian Navy will take you...

71 posted on 09/22/2016 8:03:44 PM PDT by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The RELIGION of PEDOPHILIA...)
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To: zaxtres
This woman needs brig time as not standing for the national anthem is a serious crime.

It is not a "crime." Yes, it is corrosive of good order and discipline, and the failure to stand when told - I am presuming that a direct order was given here - is disobedience of a direct order.

I am presuming that this was a first offense. And brig time for a first offense of this nature is somewhat over the top. There are ways you deal with first offenses of that kind. First, you tell her chief petty officer that it is his/her job to get her in line. Extra duty, etc. If there is a second offense, more of this, then it gets more serious and escalates rapidly. It can escalate very rapidly.

But the goal is to instill firmness, discipline and guidance. Not destroy someone's life for a momentary lapse of judgment with no real adverse consequences except the worry that you cannot let this kind of behavior continue.

72 posted on 09/22/2016 8:06:39 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: kevcol
"... I feel like a hypocrite, singing about 'land of the free' when, I know that only applies to some Americans."

You must REALLY feel like an a**hole knowing that you could be sent at any time to die for the country you hate so much. I guess even the Navy can't fix stupid. You need to get out of the Navy. You have no business being there.

73 posted on 09/22/2016 8:08:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I may be deplorable but I've never had to plead the Fifth Amendment like so many Democrats are doing)
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To: kevcol

Bust her one rank and assign her to a fleet oiler.


74 posted on 09/22/2016 8:10:38 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

If this was a second offense I would second that action.


75 posted on 09/22/2016 8:11:53 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: kevcol

Black Vagina Whiner. Most protected class in America.

BCD


76 posted on 09/22/2016 8:12:45 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: NorthMountain

Dishonorable.


77 posted on 09/22/2016 8:17:05 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: kevcol

At 5 pm on any military bases, time stops as all servicemen honor the flag lowering. As a civilian, I was confused the first time I saw all the cars stopping and the soldiers hopping out to stand at attention. I guess Ervin didn’t get the memo.


78 posted on 09/22/2016 8:19:25 PM PDT by calico_thompson (Vanity sarcasm)
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To: 2111USMC

I see she’s a petty officer as well? Bust her to E1


79 posted on 09/22/2016 8:24:23 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: kevcol

“equipment I need to do my Naval job” was taken away.

*********************

Awww, they took her mop away.


80 posted on 09/22/2016 8:25:22 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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