[Robert DeLong]

I'm sorry, but are you dense?

If you see something getting ready to pounce on you, do you not take steps to counter that?

That is what Silicon Valley is doing by hiring even more H-1B visa holders, and their cry for even more to be allowed. They cannot unionize foreign workers.

Let's just agree to disagree and drop it.

[grey_whiskers]

Very well-but your initial statements on the thread really did echo the tired platitudes of MBAs, CEOs, and consultants who argued that H1-Bs were completely necessary, long before they were even a fad, even as many tech companies were veritably *printing* money.

(And if H1-B engineers and programmers are so superior, why did BIll Joy invent Java, and why did Sun Microsystems crater after going all-in on H1-Bs? Why did Hewlett-Patel crater after Carly Fiorina proclaimed, "No American has a right to a job?"

I think there is more than the money, and it is related to the attempt to forcibly allow in gazillions of Mexicans, Indians, Somalis, and assorted jihadists...

Fare thee well.