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To: Robert DeLong
You are correct. It is my personal observation of you, and your tactics.

For H-1B visas, the regulations define a "specialty occupation" as requiring theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge in a field of human endeavor including but not limited to biotechnology, chemistry, architecture, engineering, mathematics, physical sciences, social sciences, medicine and health, education, law, accounting, business specialties, theology, and the arts, and requiring the attainment of a bachelor's degree or its equivalent as a minimum (with the exception of fashion models, who must be "of distinguished merit and ability"). Likewise, the foreign worker must possess at least a bachelor's degree or its equivalent and state licensure, if required to practice in that field. H-1B work-authorization is strictly limited to employment by the sponsoring employer.

None of this contradicts my observation, that H1-B visas are not used in factories: therefore, your cited article about the (threatened) Unionization of the Tesla Factory as a putative rationale for H1-Bs in Silicon Valley -- which YOU came up with, fails even by your own definition.

So it is not my comprehension which is lacking, but, as I pointed out at the beginning, your honesty...you are fulfilling two ...no, all three of Vox Day's observations of Social Justice Warriors.

1) Social Justice Warriors always lie. Originally asserted by me, now confirmed.

2) Social Justice Warriors always project...in this case, projecting your own ignorance of the H1-B practice onto me.

This is and was an H1-B thread (check the title). You defended H1-Bs as a natural response to the threat of rising labour costs. When I called you out as a liar, you attacked my character in general and attempted to change the subject to Unions.

3) Social Justice Warriors always double down: in this case, by your subsequent remarks to me.

When you got BTFO on that, you attempted to introduce an article about attempted unionization of a manufacturing factory as "proof".

When you got BTFO, you doubled down on your attacks and called ME ignorant, when you were the one who introduced a blatant, naked non-sequitur to the thread.

...incidentally, leaving entirely unaddressed, the proof that the H1-B visa phenomenon is NOT driven by existing high labour costs, as your original contention stated.

113 posted on 03/18/2017 2:29:53 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Again you dolt little man, Silicon Valley does not fear H-1B visas (nor did I imply that of even link to that article for that reason), it is unionization that they fear.

Of course they use the program just like their competitors do, to enhance their bottom line. They do not have to make payments for social security, medicare, unemployment (all onerous regulations in their opinion), or retirement.

Unions hogtie companies down the road and affect their bottom lines, and that is why they fear them. If you had bothered to even read the article you would have learned that unions are turning their efforts towards Silicon Valley, because it is such a rich environment. In fact, the unions themselves privately support the H-1B visa program because it generate fear among the American workers there, thus giving the unions an in with the American workers.

I take it chess was never your game.

114 posted on 03/18/2017 2:49:04 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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