Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 18 September 2016

Various driveby media television networks ^ | 18 September 2016 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[kabar]

There is so much out there on Obama. The MSM won't touch it. The issue with Obama, as it was with McCain and Cruz, is their eligibility to be President under the Constitution, i.e., are they natural born citizens. It has nothing to do with race.

Obama would never have produced his phony long form BC if not for Trump. The MSM said there was no such form and had to eat their words when Obama produced a fraudulent electronic version. Regardless, this is a non-issue for this campaign. Obama isn't a candidate. Trump never mentioned it in his campaign until the Dems and their surrogates in the MSM made it a manufactured issue to attack Trump in the midst of a very bad stretch for Hillary.

[Cboldt]

-- Remember Ezra Klein's "Journ-0-list"? --

I sure do, and was trying to remember what it was called, planning to refer to it by name in my post. I agree, that function still exists, absolutely. The press is a borg, united in vision, methods and content.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

Julian Assange said the Sunday shows set the table for what the WH wants the discussion to be for the rest of the week.

Via hacked emails, moles and cleverly placed bugging devices?

[Lakeside Granny]

It wasn’t West but a much younger version of West.

[bray]

Anybody considering Trump already knows about him and the birther issue. Most agree and the moderates don’t know what it was about anyway and could not care less.

[GOPJ]

White liberal elites want the ‘birther issue’ to scare black citizens - - it’s a race care to keep the black community on the WHITE LIBERAL ELITE PLANTATION.

It’s not suppose to work on any other group.

That said, you’re right on every point Cboldt... Thanks for sharing.

[rodguy911]

....Why do you think the birther issue suddenly popped up unless her polls are showing just this.

Good catch,any port in a storm.

The hildabeast is losing big and fast as you say if they can revive the race card they will in a heart beat. Problem is they have used it so much it has a dog ear on the left corner and everyone can see which card they are playing.

[GOPJ]

Thanks rod...

[caww]

Well, Hillary did send out the message to blacks that they have to defend ‘the legacy of Obama’ this week......so the race baiting remains on her neck and nobody else...she's pushing it and playing Alinsky tactics by blaming her opponent for what she herself is doing.

Time and time again we see Hillary playing this very hand...

[rodguy911]

Right on all your takes.

I'm just pissed that no one on our side has the guts to stand up and present the argument which is solid.

That we have a poser for a potus.

[PghBaldy]

ABC today, edited to remove Clinton comment about the bombs, so they can mislead:

RADDATZ: Lots of question this morning. Thanks to you. Thank you, Brian.

Both candidates for president reacted quickly to the breaking news from New York. Hillary Clinton, cautious as ever, while Donald Trump used the news to sound the alarm.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-sen-tim-kaine-gov-mike-pence/story?id=42162064

[Fishtalk]

You really ought to read my cousin’s book. It’s what she and I share, this writing thing.

She went to cemeteries and churches and really worked it.

We really did own that mountain, in West Virginia. And my McLaughlins fought in the Civil War beejeesus.

But on the wrong side.

Heh.

[kabar]

I don't think the DNC necessarily drives the talking points,

Watch this hilarious compilation of the MSM using the phrase "power thru" to describe Hillary's health incident. The MSM is shameless.

Wikileaks hacking of the DNC provided many examples of the DNC coordinating their attacks against Trump. Chuck Todd was one example and so was the Politico reporter who cleared his story with the DNC before sending it on to his editor.

[Fu-fu2]

Martha grilling Pence about birtherism. She should not have anything to do with the debates .

[ROCKLOBSTER]

In fact, it has existed for the last 80-90 years now, since the Soviet Union started to turn the US and Western Europe press way back in the 1920s. Through WWII, they were solidly and publically Communists

Correct, don't forget McCarthy and Hollywierd.

Add homosexual activists to the lot

Queer rights, women's lib, black panthers, hippies, environmentalist whackos, hispanics, schools socialist indoctrination centers,....and a few more. The Soviet Union initiated all this crap.

It all started in the 60's....

Man.

[Cboldt]

-- White liberal elites want the `birther issue' to scare black citizens - - it's a race care to keep the black community on the WHITE LIBERAL ELITE PLANTATION. --

I agree, and of course, as an issue, it will work on some of them. Some of those irrationals are in the press, and tell us every chance they get that Trump is a racist bigot, see birtherism applied to Obama.

My point is that I don't think this issue will "turn the election," it won;t trun off enough of the black voters. The black voters that are turned off to Trump after birtherism, are the same ones that wouldn't vote for him no matter what. There might be some marginal changes, but you know, I think those could go either way. Irrationality is common, but not at epidemic levels!

FWIW, the press is telling us that birthersim hurts Trump with white educated females too. "It's not just a black issue" is something Lemon, Van Jones, and the white race hustlers are sure to add as they paint Trump as a racist bigot.

[SW6906]

Thanks for the comprehensive summary!!

[kabar]

The media seems to think that Trump changing his mind about the Obama birth certificate issue is paramount to the American voters in making their decisions coming in November.

No, the media is working with the DNC to use the "birther issue" against Trump to paint him as a racist. IMO Trump has not changed his mind (thankfully), but rather, he is playing the same games as the Dems. Obama and Hillary both "evolved" on the issue of gay marriage since the 2008 Dem primary. No MSM attention to this flip-flop.

[Cboldt]

I agree it's coordinated. My narrow point with "I don't think the DNC necessarily drives the talking points" was that the DNC and the press work as a team, and sometimes the press side of that team comes up with better talking points, so the team uses the talking points that originated with its own members.

Still totally coordinated, just not originated or developed by the DNC - agreed to by the DNC for sure, the press will not run (at least not for long) with anything that the DNC waves off.

[kabar]

WHY is this never mentioned by anyone in the Trump camp? Surely they've seen it here. It was researched and proven accurate, not photo-shopped. Someone needs to contact Trump. I sure do wish Kelly Ann had this ammo on MTP today to present to Slug Todd.

This went on for 16 years until Obama started running for President. They blamed the publicist for the error.

I am sure the Trump campaign is well-aware of all of this. But why should they take the bait and make this a big issue deflecting and distracting from Hillary's many vulnerabilities? Obama is not running in 2016.