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The Kremlin Really Believes That Hillary Wants to Start a War With Russia
Foreign Policy.com ^ | September 7, 2016 | Clinton Ehrlich

Posted on 09/09/2016 1:56:16 PM PDT by Ancesthntr

If Hillary Clinton is elected president, the world will remember Aug. 25 as the day she began the Second Cold War.

In a speech last month nominally about Donald Trump, Clinton called Russian President Vladimir Putin the godfather of right-wing, extreme nationalism. To Kremlin-watchers, those were not random epithets. Two years earlier, in the most famous address of his career, Putin accused the West of backing an armed seizure of power in Ukraine by “extremists, nationalists, and right-wingers.” Clinton had not merely insulted Russia’s president: She had done so in his own words. Worse, they were words originally directed at neo-Nazis. In Moscow, this was seen as a reprise of Clinton’s comments comparing Putin to Hitler. It injected an element of personal animus into an already strained relationship — but, more importantly, it set up Putin as the representative of an ideology that is fundamentally opposed to the United States.

Even as relations between Russia and the West have sunk to new lows in the wake of 2014’s revolution in Ukraine, the Kremlin has long contended that a Cold War II is impossible. That’s because, while there may be differences over, say, the fate of Donetsk, there is no longer a fundamental ideological struggle dividing East and West. To Russian ears, Clinton seemed determined in her speech to provide this missing ingredient for bipolar enmity, painting Moscow as the vanguard for racism, intolerance, and misogyny around the globe.

The nation Clinton described was unrecognizable to its citizens. Anti-woman? Putin’s government provides working mothers with three years of subsidized family leave. Intolerant? The president personally attended the opening of Moscow’s great mosque. Racist? Putin often touts Russia’s ethnic diversity. To Russians, it appeared that Clinton was straining to fabricate a rationale for hostilities.

I have been hard-pressed to offer a more comforting explanation for Clinton’s behavior — a task that has fallen to me as the sole Western researcher at the Russian Foreign Ministry’s Moscow State Institute of International Relations. Better known by its native acronym, MGIMO, the institute is the crown jewel of Russia’s national-security brain trust, which Henry Kissinger dubbed the “Harvard of Russia.”

In practice, the institute is more like a hybrid of West Point and Georgetown’s School of Foreign Service: MGIMO prepares the elite of Russia’s diplomatic corps and houses the country’s most influential think tanks. There is no better vantage point to gauge Moscow’s perceptions of a potential Hillary Clinton administration.

Let’s not mince words: Moscow perceives the former secretary of state as an existential threat. The Russian foreign-policy experts I consulted did not harbor even grudging respect for Clinton. The most damaging chapter of her tenure was the NATO intervention in Libya, which Russia could have prevented with its veto in the U.N. Security Council. Moscow allowed the mission to go forward only because Clinton had promised that a no-fly zone would not be used as cover for regime change.

Russia’s leaders were understandably furious when, not only was former Libyan President Muammar al-Qaddafi ousted, but a cellphone recording of his last moments showed U.S.-backed rebels sodomizing him with a bayonet. They were even more enraged by Clinton’s videotaped response to the same news: “We came, we saw, he died,” the secretary of state quipped before bursting into laughter, cementing her reputation in Moscow as a duplicitous warmonger.

As a candidate, Clinton has given Moscow déjà vu by once again demanding a humanitarian no-fly zone in the Middle East — this time in Syria. Russian analysts universally believe that this is another pretext for regime change. Putin is determined to prevent Syrian President Bashar al-Assad from meeting the same fate as Qaddafi — which is why he has deployed Russia’s air force, navy, and special operations forces to eliminate the anti-Assad insurgents, many of whom have received U.S. training and equipment.

Given the ongoing Russian operations, a “no-fly zone” is a polite euphemism for shooting down Russia’s planes unless it agrees to ground them. Clinton is aware of this fact. When asked in a debate whether she would shoot down Russian planes, she responded, “I do not think it would come to that.” In other words, if she backs Putin into a corner, she is confident he will flinch before the United States starts a shooting war with Russia.

That is a dubious assumption; the stakes are much higher for Moscow than they are for the White House. Syria has long been Russia’s strongest ally in the Middle East, hosting its only military installation outside the former Soviet Union. As relations with Turkey fray, the naval garrison at Tartus is of more strategic value than ever, because it enables Russia’s Black Sea Fleet to operate in the Mediterranean without transiting the Turkish Straits.

Two weeks ago, Putin redoubled his commitment to Syria by conducting airstrikes with strategic bombers from a base in northwest Iran — a privilege for which Russia paid significant diplomatic capital. Having come this far, there is no conceivable scenario in which Moscow rolls over and allows anti-Assad forces to take Damascus — which it views as Washington’s ultimate goal, based in part on publicly accessible intelligence reports.

Clinton has justified her threatened attack on Russia’s air force, saying that it “gives us some leverage in our conversations with Russia.” This sounds suspiciously like the “madman theory” of deterrence subscribed to by former President Richard Nixon, who tried to maximize his leverage by convincing the Soviets he was crazy enough to start a world war. Nixon’s bluff was a failure; even when he invaded Cambodia, Moscow never questioned his sanity. Today, Russian analysts do not retain the same confidence in Hillary Clinton’s soundness of mind.

Her temper became legendary in Moscow when she breached diplomatic protocol by storming out of a meeting with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov just moments after exchanging pleasantries. And the perception that she is unstable was exacerbated by reports that Clinton drank heavily while acting as America’s top diplomat — accusations that carry special weight in a country that faults alcoholism for many of Boris Yeltsin’s failures.

Cultural differences in decorum have made the situation worse. In Russia, where it is considered a sign of mental illness to so much as smile at a stranger on the street, leaders are expected to project an image of stern calm. Through that prism, Clinton has shown what looks like disturbing behavior on the campaign trail: barking like a dog, bobbing her head, and making exaggerated faces. (To be clear, my point is not that these are real signs of cognitive decay, but that many perceive them that way in Moscow.)

Another factor that disturbs Russian analysts is the fact that, unlike prior hawks such as John McCain, Clinton is a Democrat. This has allowed her to mute the West’s normal anti-interventionist voices, even as Iraq-war architect Robert Kagan boasts that Clinton will pursue a neocon foreign policy by another name. Currently, the only voice for rapprochement with Russia is Clinton’s opponent, Donald Trump. If she vanquishes him, she will have a free hand to take the aggressive action against Russia that Republican hawks have traditionally favored.

Moscow prefers Trump not because it sees him as easily manipulated, but because his “America First” agenda coincides with its view of international relations. Russia seeks a return to classical international law, in which states negotiate with one another based on mutually understood self-interests untainted by ideology. To Moscow, only the predictability of realpolitik can provide the coherence and stability necessary for a durable peace.

For example, the situation on the ground demonstrates that Crimea has, in fact, become part of Russia. Offering to officially recognize that fact is the most powerful bargaining chip the next president can play in future negotiations with Russia. Yet Clinton has castigated Trump for so much as putting the option on the table. For ideological reasons, she prefers to pretend that Crimea will someday be returned to Ukraine — even as Moscow builds a $4 billion bridge connecting the peninsula to the Russian mainland.

Moscow believes that Crimea and other major points of bipolar tension will evaporate if America simply elects a leader who will pursue the nation’s best interest, from supporting Assad against the Islamic State to shrinking NATO by ejecting free riders. Russia respects Trump for taking these realist positions on his own initiative, even though they were not politically expedient.

In Clinton, it sees the polar opposite — a progressive ideologue who will stubbornly adhere to moral postures regardless of their consequences. Clinton also has financial ties to George Soros, whose Open Society Foundations are considered the foremost threat to Russia’s internal stability, based on their alleged involvement in Eastern Europe’s prior “Color Revolutions.”

Russia’s security apparatus is certain that Soros aspires to overthrow Putin’s government using the same methods that felled President Viktor Yanukovych in Ukraine: covertly orchestrated mass protests concealing armed provocateurs. The Kremlin’s only question is whether Clinton is reckless enough to back those plans.

Putin condemned the United States for flirting with such an operation in 2011, when then-Secretary Clinton spoke out in favor of mass protests against his party’s victory in parliamentary elections. Her recent explosive rhetoric has given him no reason to believe that she has abandoned the dream of a Maidan on Red Square.

That fear was heightened when Clinton surrogate Harry Reid, the Senate minority leader, recently accused Putin of attempting to rig the U.S. election through cyberattacks. That is a grave allegation — the very kind of thing a President Clinton might repeat to justify war with Russia.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: clinton; cluelessidiots; elections; evilsociopath; greathonor; hillary; kgbputin; putin; putinistas; russia; sick; trumpwasright; usefulidiots; war
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To: RedWulf
Re: So why then has he [KGB Putin] been a longtime close ally of “Death To America”, “Wipe Israel Off The Map”, Iran?

Why are we allies with Saudi Arabia, the nation that funded the 911 attacks and pretty much every terrorist attack since. ISIS gets most of their funding and weapons from them.

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“Russia–Saudi Arabia relations is the relationship between the two countries, Russia and Saudi Arabia. The relations between the two countries are currently strong in military and technical cooperation.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_relations
101 posted on 09/10/2016 2:28:49 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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I strongly suspect Russia played a role in the 911 attacks.


102 posted on 09/10/2016 2:34:08 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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To: Ancesthntr
http://www.trunews.com/article/jesuits-have-their-man-in-hillary-vp-pick

http://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=jesuits+vs+russian+orthodox+church


Same Ol' accommodating state-established/establishing manure, different municipal toilet.

#GotReformation?


 

103 posted on 09/10/2016 6:37:18 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Ancesthntr

She probably does want to start a war with Russia. That is what she does best: start wars.


104 posted on 09/10/2016 7:02:20 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: Ancesthntr

Bill tried to....in Pristina.


105 posted on 09/10/2016 7:03:12 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ETL

Compared to Valarie Jarret and ObaMao who flew them hundreds of millions of dollars in cash to finance terrorism and who knows what else?


106 posted on 09/10/2016 8:58:03 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Afternoon bump for an important thread.


107 posted on 09/10/2016 10:18:30 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; BenLurkin; traderrob6
National Socialism was extreme. What drove the extremity was the Utilitarian & Collectivist aspect of all Socialist movements--not the nationalist, after all, usually, a facet or colloary of normal family identification. When the chips were down, the compulsion driven Hitler was perfectly willing to see the German youth and civilians slaughtered, even when the War was clearly lost. (Witness the battle of Berlin where both Socialist Dictators Hitler & Stalin continued the slaughter for no military necessity, recognizable by any patriot.)

One of the great fallacies in the Leftist takeover of Academia, and what has gone with it, is the notion that the Nazis were on the Right; that they were driven to extremity by a love of country, etc.. This narrative needs to be reexamined, as it is one of the factors that has led to the Leftist war on patriotism & cultural conservatism. It is a dangerous fallacy that is one of the pseudo intellectual contrivances used against us.

108 posted on 09/10/2016 11:46:04 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

Amidst the ‘deplorables’ debacle;don’t let this thread fly under the radar. We now see clearly why Hillary could start World War III.


109 posted on 09/10/2016 3:28:10 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Ohioan

Also, don’t forget Hitler’s last great gamble when he threw his last crack armies into the meat grinder of the Ardennes forest rather than the plains of Prussia and Poland.


110 posted on 09/10/2016 5:33:17 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Ancesthntr

Yeah thanks but no thanks. Putin is still our enemy under kgb control as it is under Putin.


111 posted on 09/11/2016 7:01:19 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Glad2bnuts

They are the evil empire. Ask the ukrainians. I say we call Putin bluff and send milItaly advisers to the Ukraine.


112 posted on 09/11/2016 7:02:37 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

Putin is surely a rival of ours. In no way do I advocate letting down our guard. However, I do believe it is better to have a more constructive relationship with him and his country comma as opposed to being on the verge of war war on the path to war. Such a war would be the end of this country and theirs, plus a lot of other nations as well. That is simply insanity. Bottom line: there has to be a better way - head of Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon understood that, I think that we can all see the wisdom of that.


113 posted on 09/11/2016 7:22:23 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr

I don’t think it would come to ww3. Call his bluff. Arm the ukraine. Demographics will destroy his dreams of rebuilding the Soviet Union so I agree we can out wait him.


114 posted on 09/11/2016 7:35:38 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

You ARE insane. I didn’t promise the Ukrainians anything. To gamble the entire world on a stupid trigger point brings to mind Britain and Poland. You do know the only reason Poland refused reasonable compromise with Germany was Britain and France backed them up don’t you? Just think, the entire history of the world and WW II may have been so different. Couldn’t have that now could we? The idiots in Europe want to punish Germany, and they caused the entire mess, and WE have to die to back them up....NO THANKS.....


115 posted on 09/11/2016 10:52:55 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: Glad2bnuts

You can’t really believe that. Two socialist powers carved Poland in half. Don’t believe what pat Buchanan says.


116 posted on 09/11/2016 11:58:10 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: ETL

Yes. Foreign Policy published highschool dropouts musings. Strange.


117 posted on 09/12/2016 2:41:03 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Sam Gamgee

There are some advisers training Ukrainian troops and the advisers are also learning themselves as this is the first time large operations are against a foe who has sophisticated electronic jamming capabilities. What Ukraine would have needed was light anti tank guided missiles. General Breedlove was lobbying hard for them to get these and Pakistan had agreed to sell some of their TOW-2s if US gives their approval, but Obama was against and sacked Breedlove for it.


118 posted on 09/12/2016 2:53:19 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Sam Gamgee; Ancesthntr; Krosan
Putin is still our enemy under kgb control as it is under Putin.

From a 2007 article titled "Putin's Russia"...

" KGB influence 'soars under Putin,' " blared the headline of a BBC online article for December 13, 2006. The following day, a similar headline echoed a similarly alarming story at the website of Der Spiegel, one of Germany's largest news magazines: "Putin's Russia: Kremlin Riddled with Former KGB Agents."

In the opening sentences of Der Spiegel's article, readers are informed that: "Four out of five members of Russia's political and business elite have a KGB past, according to a new study by the prestigious [Russian] Academy of Sciences. The influence of ex-Soviet spies has ballooned under President Vladimir Putin."

The study, which looked at 1,061 top Kremlin, regional, and corporate jobs, found that "78 percent of the Russian elite" are what are known in Russia as "siloviki," which is to say, former members of the KGB or its domestic successor, the FSB. The author of the study, Olga Kryshtanovskaya, expressed shock at her own findings. "I was very shocked when I looked at the boards of major companies and realized there were lots of people who had completely unknown names, people who were not public but who were definitely, obvious siloviki," she told Reuters.

Other supposed experts - in Russia and the West - have also expressed surprise and alarm at the apparent resurrection of the dreaded Soviet secret police. After all, for the past decade and a half these same experts have been pointing to the alleged demise of the KGB as the primary evidence supporting their claim that communism is dead.

From the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, the Russian security apparatus Cheka (and its later permutations: OGPU, NKVD, MGB, KGB) had been the "sword and shield" of the communist world revolution.

"We stand for organized terror," declared Felix Dzerzhinsky, the first chief of the Cheka for Soviet dictator Vladimir Lenin. In 1918, Dzerzhinsky launched the campaign of arrests and executions known as the Red Terror. Krasnaya Gazeta, the Bolshevik newspaper, expressed the Chekist credo when it reported approvingly in 1918 of the terror campaign: "We will make our hearts cruel, hard and immovable, so that no mercy will enter them, and so that they will not quiver at the sight of a sea of enemy blood."

Unflinching cruelty and merciless, bloody terror have been the trademark of the communist secret police, from the Cheka to the KGB. Obviously, the demise of such an organization would be cause for much rejoicing. Hence, when the KGB was ordered dissolved and its chairman, General Vladimir Kryuchkov, was arrested in 1991 after attempting to overthrow "liberal reformer" Mikhail Gorbachev in the failed "August Coup," many people in the West were only too willing to pop the champagne corks and start celebrating our supposed victory over the Evil Empire.

But, as Mikhail Leontiyev, commentator for Russia's state-controlled Channel One television, recently noted, repeating a phrase popular among the siloviki: "Americans got so drunk at the USSR's funeral that they're still hung over." And stumbling around in their post-inebriation haze, many of these Americans have only recently begun noticing that they had prematurely written the KGB's epitaph, even as it was arising vampire-like from the coffin.

However, there is really no excuse for Olga Kryshtanovskaya or any of her American counterparts to be stunned by the current siloviki dominance in Putin's Russia. For nearly a decade, even before he became Russia's "president," THE NEW AMERICAN has been reporting on Putin's KGB pedigree and his steady implementation of a long-range Soviet deception strategy, including the public rehabilitation and refortifying of the KGB-FSB. ..."

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http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/8420-putins-russia

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"For 16 years Putin was an officer in the KGB, rising to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel before he retired to enter politics in his native Saint Petersburg in 1991.

He moved to Moscow in 1996 and joined President Boris Yeltsin's administration where he rose quickly, becoming Acting President on 31 December 1999 when Yeltsin unexpectedly resigned. Putin won the subsequent 2000 presidential election, despite widespread accusations of vote-rigging,[3] and was reelected in 2004."

"On 25 July 1998, Yeltsin appointed Vladimir Putin head of the FSB (one of the successor agencies to the KGB), the position Putin occupied until August 1999. He became a permanent member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation on 1 October 1998 and its Secretary on 29 March 1999."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin


119 posted on 09/12/2016 4:31:11 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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To: Sam Gamgee
They are the evil empire. Ask the Ukrainians.

Russia decries 'new Cold War' as East-West tensions cloud talks

AFP, by Frank Zeller, Eric Randolph
February 13, 2016

"...a panel of eastern European leaders lined up to add their own accusations of Russian aggression.

"Every single day, Russian troops, Russian weapons, Russian ammunition penetrate into my country," said Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko.

He addressed Russian President Vladimir Putin, who was not present, saying:

"Mr Putin, this is not a civil war in Ukraine, this is your aggression. This is not a civil war in Crimea, this is your soldiers who occupied my country."

http://web.archive.org/save/http://news.yahoo.com/russias-medvedev-says-world-cold-war-091417194.html

120 posted on 09/12/2016 4:39:09 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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