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Hillary Continues to Falsely State Material is Not Classified Unless It is Marked as Such
Excerpts from Time and Washington Post | September 7, 2016 | Allan J. Favish

Posted on 09/07/2016 7:25:05 PM PDT by AJFavish

At the military issues forum tonight Hillary lied again when she said that material is not classified unless it is marked as such. FBI Director Comey and other security experts say the opposite.

http://time.com/4483355/commander-chief-forum-clinton-trump-intrepid/

Hillary said:

But the real question is the handling of classified material, which is I think what the implication of your question was. And for all the viewers watching you tonight, I have a lot of experience dealing with classified material, starting when I was on the Senate Armed Services Committee going into the four years as secretary of state. Classified material has a header which says “top secret,” “secret,” “confidential.” Nothing — and I will repeat this, and this is verified in the report by the Department of Justice — none of the e-mails sent or received by me had such a header.

. . .

CLINTON: Well, I appreciate your concern and also your experience. But let me try to make the distinctions that I think are important for me to answer your question.

First, as I said to Matt, you know and I know classified material is designated. It is marked. There is a header so that there is no dispute at all that what is being communicated to or from someone who has that access is marked classified.

And what we have here is the use of an unclassified system by hundreds of people in our government to send information that was not marked, there were no headers, there was no statement, top secret, secret, or confidential.

I communicated about classified material on a wholly separate system. I took it very seriously. When I traveled, I went into one of those little tents that I’m sure you’ve seen around the world because we didn’t want there to be any potential for someone to have embedded a camera to try to see whatever it is that I was seeing that was designated, marked, and headed as classified.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/17/bill-clintons-misleading-claim-about-marked-classified-information-in-hillary-clintons-emails/

Excerpt:

Still, Comey said Clinton should have known better: “There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation.” He noted that “even if information is not marked ‘classified’ in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.”

On July 8, Clinton’s language over emails changed again: “I certainly did not believe that I received or sent any material that was classified, and, indeed, any of the documents that have been referred to, I think were not marked, or were marked inaccurately, as has now been clarified.”

Strictly speaking, classification markings do not render information classified, and the absence of classification markings do not render it unclassified, said Steven Aftergood, director of the government secrecy project at the Federation of American Scientists. In fact, a person can share classified information at a cocktail party.

“If there is no banner or header at the top of a classified email indicating that it is classified, then it is improperly marked. But the lack of such a banner does not in itself render the email unclassified. There might still be classified information in it,” Aftergood said. “The lack of a banner does, however, explain how a recipient might easily consider it unclassified. Isolated portion markings such as ‘(C)’ might easily be overlooked or dismissed as errors, especially if their content seems innocuous.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: classified; clinton; email; hillary
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To: volunbeer

We don’t have to listen to her to know she is lying.

Just turn off the TV Volume, and watch her in tonight’s debates. Her body language, facial expressions, and mannerisms manifest her lying eyes.


41 posted on 09/07/2016 8:33:16 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: boop

I like the way you think, but the MSM will go even farther to protect Obama. I doubt anyone will ask him and we already know the answer... of course he emailed her. If he had not one must wonder what in the hell he was doing during such a tumultuous time for foreign affairs.

I am sure many people high in his administration as well as other cabinet members emailed her. By statute - each and every one of them committed a felony.


42 posted on 09/07/2016 8:34:06 PM PDT by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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To: Rusty0604

She said tonight that anything classified she used a totally different system. This is the first I’ve heard of that.


First I have heard of this also, but we already know this is not true or the FBI lied. Can’t be both.


43 posted on 09/07/2016 8:35:59 PM PDT by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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To: Cvengr

Yes - her body language exudes annoyance. I think most people pick up on that and it is one of the main reasons she is so unlikable. Can’t hide it and people subconsciously pick up on it. She does it often. Trump sometimes does it (not that anyone can blame him) when protestors disrupt his speeches.

I don’t watch Fox much at all any more, but does Trump still have the body language gal on as a guest? Would be curious to see how she would rank Hillary.


44 posted on 09/07/2016 8:39:45 PM PDT by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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To: volunbeer
Yes. That IS news.

Up until now we have been told that Hillary only used private servers to do all of her business.

It should be a snap to find out if she *ever* used secured devices.

It would be a game changer, as you said.

Either Hillary lied, or the FBI lied.

IMHO, they are BOTH untrustworthy.

45 posted on 09/07/2016 8:42:52 PM PDT by boop (And then Hillary fell into a deep sleep for 11 months...)
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To: Rusty0604

“She said tonight that anything classified she used a totally different system. This is the first I’ve heard of that.”

It’s also the first time I heard of this. What secure, classified system did she use, Chelseamail.com?


46 posted on 09/07/2016 8:49:58 PM PDT by Cololeo
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To: AJFavish
At the military issues forum tonight Hillary lied again when she said that material is not classified unless it is marked as such.

I guess I can classify my grocery list then.

47 posted on 09/07/2016 9:17:56 PM PDT by American Quilter (Hillary is an Unindicted Criminal.)
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To: Windflier

....and a kitchen match lights!


48 posted on 09/07/2016 10:23:00 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: AJFavish

I worked with classified material through Top Secret for 25 years. I well remember being handed Top Secret text by engineers as it was being generated by them. It had no classified markings (part of my job as proposal editor was to add them), but all of it was Top Secret.


49 posted on 09/07/2016 10:26:31 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: volunbeer

“...does Trump still have the body language gal on as a guest?”

You must mean Bill O’Reilly?


50 posted on 09/08/2016 3:48:51 AM PDT by JohnnyP (A minuscule percent of donations are distributed as aid.)
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To: AJFavish

I implore everyone not to fixate on the security aspect of the emails, whether it is classified or not is a red herring. The key here is whether it is part of the public record official business (it is) and did she deliberately try to get around the awareness she had these emails (she did) and did she try to destroy them (she did).

The Federal statutes specifically address these things. We should not play their game about whether they were classified or not, because we know where that shell game will go.

We need to concentrate on two questions:

1.) Was she corresponding with people in or out of government on government business on her private, unsecured server? Yes or No?

2.) Did she attempt to destroy those communications? Yes or No?

She is going to attempt to escape the horns of this dilemma by maintaining the destroyed communications were either not classified, or not presented to her as classified, and therefore squeeze between the horns. We should not let her.


51 posted on 09/08/2016 4:18:13 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: volunbeer
"...Her actions also violated the Federal Record Keeping Act that MANDATES that government correspondence be retained as government records. Her idea that she would use a private server and this would not apply to her is absurd for anyone not named Clinton. Any communication in the employ of the government for official business is subject to the record keeping requirements..."


"DING DING DING! What do we have for her, Johnny?"

You got it!

52 posted on 09/08/2016 4:21:40 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: Steely Tom

when?


53 posted on 09/08/2016 4:24:02 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... We Frack for Peace)
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To: Volunteer; Cvengr

Actually, I think it is her voice more than her body language:

She will never, ever get MEN to vote for her. I am not talking about Rush Limbaugh’s “New Castrati”. I am talking about Normal Men.

Her crusty pantsuitness’s voice is like chalk on a board. It is the sound etched deep into the primordial areas of Man’s Brain.

It is the sound of a woman who is very, VERY angry at him.

Her voice is shrill...and resonates a perfect, exquisitely awful dissonance at certain frequencies.

Primordial Man first heard that sound when he dragged his filthy, muddy feet into that clean, dry cave and was lit into by Primordial Woman because he didn’t clean the swamp ooze off of his feet, or the Wooly Mammoth guts off of his malodorous fur skin.

That is the voice of Hillary Clinton. She tries to hide it. Oh, she tries sooooo hard. But no matter how hard she tries, there are times she opens that mouth and every man with that Primordial Man inside him, hears Her voice.

Of course, liberal, pear-shaped men are just fine with that. They LIKE it. THEY will vote for her.


54 posted on 09/08/2016 4:27:46 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: AJFavish

Yep. She doesn’t seem to understand the law. Content is what determines if something is classified or not, not a mark on the document.


55 posted on 09/08/2016 5:27:23 AM PDT by The Toad
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To: JohnnyP

Oops - yes, I meant Ted Baxter not Trump


56 posted on 09/08/2016 5:56:02 AM PDT by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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